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Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1827183
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Hero (BTN): $12.65
SB: $10.21
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.37
MP: $11.45
CO: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with T 8
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 3 2 J (2 players)
MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.55) 9 (2 players)
MP bets $0.91, Hero raises to $2.70, MP calls $1.79

River: ($6.95) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $4.50, MP raises to $8.05 all in, Hero( has 3.55$ to call pot is 19.5$ and is getting odds of 5.49 : 1)


Villain 42/32/AFq:71 after 19 hands has 3betted 40%(4/10) so seems more on the aggressive side even though sample is still small. his vip status at stars is platin. so he must be putting in a ton of volume at these stakes or normally play higher. so i thought he is probably not totally horrible.

not sure about my pre flop call but blinds were pretty nitty so very low chance of getting squeezed but still not the greatest hand to have.

after he called my flop raise i put him on sets or overpairs with a diamond draws mostly. i thought he would just shove his flushes a lot on the turn.

river i was really surprised. i think i may have made a mistake with my betsizing. i think i should go smaller given that i think he is not a total fish. i really have a hard time giving him worse for value or a bluff but it seemed just sick to fold a flush given the pot odds i get and the amount of money already in the pot.

He is so aggro that I don't think we can fold here, if he has a better flush then it's just a cooler IMO. If you're going to flat IP with suited one gappers and flat draws on the flop, you have to stack off here otherwise you might as well not play them.

I'm a little confused as you say you raised flop in yr notes but HH shows that you called.

However...

PFR is OK. Fold these most of the time but you have to play such hands now and again and in the BU against a wide opener is as good a time as any.

Just check behind river; you got value with yr turn raise. He's prob not calling the river bet without a flush and if he has one it's prob better than yours, so betting puts you in a shitty spot. But with those odds you gotta call on the end.

if we're afraid of a shove on the river, on an unpaired board, then y are we betting it.
flush over flush is extremely rare. chalk it up to a cooler if it is.

call.

let see if i get this right. you only need to be right 18% of the time to break even in this spot.
3.55 / 19.50 = ~18%

so, if we know we're ahead here more than that, then this is an easy call, as it's a proffitable call.

I'm a little confused as you say you raised flop in yr notes but HH shows that you called.

However...

y that was a mistake i meant to say after he called my turn raise sorry for that confusion

if we're afraid of a shove on the river, on an unpaired board, then y are we betting it.
flush over flush is extremely rare. chalk it up to a cooler if it is.

call.

let see if i get this right. you only need to be right 18% of the time to break even in this spot.
3.55 / 19.50 = ~18%

so, if we know we're ahead here more than that, then this is an easy call, as it's a proffitable call.

i know flush over flush is rare and i thought he would just shove a flush most of the time on the turn. still i am pretty confused with what hands he can check/raise the river here.

i know flush over flush is rare and i thought he would just shove a flush most of the time on the turn. still i am pretty confused with what hands he can check/raise the river here.

who cares. your only afraid of an over flush, and the boards not paired.
call, note what he has, and how he played it.

who cares. your only afraid of an over flush, and the boards not paired.
call, note what he has, and how he played it.

it was kinda surprising what he showed down and didn't expect this play from a platinum star and not sure if he made a good play but i doubt it.

I'm a little confused as you say you raised flop in yr notes but HH shows that you called.

However...

PFR is OK. Fold these most of the time but you have to play such hands now and again and in the BU against a wide opener is as good a time as any.

Just check behind river; you got value with yr turn raise. He's prob not calling the river bet without a flush and if he has one it's prob better than yours, so betting puts you in a shitty spot. But with those odds you gotta call on the end.

not sure about checking the river. if he played perfectly he should have a hard time calling the river with worse i agree. except maybe a set. but still its NL10 and this would be giving way too much credit to a NL10 player. but i probably should bet smaller.

I dunno. I'd say he's only raising here w/ KQ for a straight if he doesn't believe you have a flush, or w/ a flush himself. He's not shoving a flush OTT because SPR is too wide and it would turn his hand face up.

Maybe I'm overestimating 10NL players but I play 10NL and that's how I think. What was his surprising SD? AJ?

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1828309
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Hero (BTN): $12.65
SB: $10.21
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.37
MP: $11.45
CO: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with T 8
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 3 2 J (2 players)
MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.55) 9 (2 players)
MP bets $0.91, Hero raises to $2.70, MP calls $1.79

River: ($6.95) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $4.50, MP raises to $8.05 all in, Hero calls $3.55

Final Pot: $23.05
Hero shows T 8 (a flush, Jack high)
MP shows K Q (a straight, Nine to King)
Hero wins $22.01
(Rake: $1.04)


well ok thinking about it. he can think i raise a set on the turn against his smaller betsizing and value bet it on the river and not get away of it. but i represent a flush so well that his rivershove seems kinda overplayed. not really sure if his turn call was that good either

Checking the river is really bad at 10nl. People will almost always call you with straights, sets and even 2pair. Checking river is missing value which is the most important thing at 10nl. If villain had a flush he would raise OTT 99% of the time so on the river we almost always have the best hand and betting is the only option. Pre I would fold or 3bet. Postflop is well played IMO.

lot of faulty stuff in this thread

first, raise turn bigger. he bet 60% pot and you barely raised 3x. just go a tad bigger and jam river.

second, no idea how often this opponent type bluffs or overplays worse here, but you're getting insane odds and you have a flush.

as to the other posts:

"just check behind river; you got value with yr turn raise. He's prob not calling the river bet without a flush and if he has one it's prob better than yours, so betting puts you in a shitty spot. But with those odds you gotta call on the end."

this is faulty all around. we can get value on the river too. do not assume your opponents, who probably suck at poker, can see through the internet and see your hand and fold all worse holdings. if that's the case, shrink your bet sizing until he shrug calls with everything.

"if we're afraid of a shove on the river, on an unpaired board, then y are we betting it.
flush over flush is extremely rare. chalk it up to a cooler if it is. "

we shouldn't be afraid of a shove. we should estimate how much of his range calls/folds/shoves. we shouldn't 'fear' anything. it's all about math and hand ranges.

lot of faulty stuff in this thread

first, raise turn bigger. he bet 60% pot and you barely raised 3x. just go a tad bigger and jam river.

second, no idea how often this opponent type bluffs or overplays worse here, but you're getting insane odds and you have a flush.

as to the other posts:

"just check behind river; you got value with yr turn raise. He's prob not calling the river bet without a flush and if he has one it's prob better than yours, so betting puts you in a shitty spot. But with those odds you gotta call on the end."

this is faulty all around. we can get value on the river too. do not assume your opponents, who probably suck at poker, can see through the internet and see your hand and fold all worse holdings. if that's the case, shrink your bet sizing until he shrug calls with everything.

"if we're afraid of a shove on the river, on an unpaired board, then y are we betting it.
flush over flush is extremely rare. chalk it up to a cooler if it is. "

we shouldn't be afraid of a shove. we should estimate how much of his range calls/folds/shoves. we shouldn't 'fear' anything. it's all about math and hand ranges.

totally agree about my turn raise sizing. it sets up bad stacks for the river and almost gives him direct odds to call with a set. but should i bet the river smaller as played? actually my betsize does not really influence the range i represent on the river but i may get some more crying calls from overpairs that had a draw on the turn or simple overpairs when i bet smaller. and really thanks a lot for bothering with micro stakes hands like this

you're welcome and of course - that's why we're here.

i think, as played, river size should target your opponents' calling frequencies here. i know that's not super helpful, but i would expect you to know your opponents' tendencies facing different sizings than i would! since much of his range that has a decision is one pair (w or w/o diamond) i would target those holdings.