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Pre Flop: (3 SB) Hero is BB with A A
3 folds, BTN raises 2 bb , SB calls, Hero 3-bets 11bb , BTN calls, SB calls

Flop: (33 bb) J K K (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 18 bb , BTN raises 65,22 bb , Hero ???

Villain played pretty aggressive on the first 100h, 30 30 2.6 13wts with 12% 3bet and 50% squeeze. I saw him also sitting on another table with just 60bb left. We are 140bb deep!!!

SB: Is a huge fish

Hand:
I didn`t see that we are a bit deeper so I just squeezed to 11bb. But then my cbet gets raised pretty large and I was totaly cunfused. I thought if you have a strong hand here why you`re raising sooo large here? Espacially on the button with a huge fish in the sb.
Plan? Easy fold flop?

i suspect he's called your 3bet light. to me his huge raise is probably more for value than a bluff.
he can easily have KQx, AKx, JJ here.

and unless we know he's doing this with hands like QQ or TT, i'd find a fold here.

Have you seen any of his hands he has either raised or check-raised with? Also is the SB a calling station or fit or fold player. Why do you think villain min-raised from the button in position? Does he raise more with his good hands and less with his weaker hands? He is either raising this much for value and thinks you have a good hand and you might call, or he plays so loose and aggressive that maybe at times he doesn't pay attention to his raise sizes pre flop and post flop....

You squeeze preflop, cbet into 2 players on KKJ board - people don't bluff you very often when they see this kind of action.

Has he shown down any hands?
I think folding is maybe best but imo most people flat here with Kx as they have the board pretty locked vs weaker hands. He looks like he could just be a bad aggro fish since hes sitting at another table with 60bb and most good regs at these stakes barely ever raise this board at all.
Without reads I think you have to go with unknowns arent bluffing in these spots often enough.

No I didn`t see a showdown hand from him until this hand. SB was a huge station and of course villains play makes no sense here but I also think if we just have the stats and no specific reads we have to fold here. But otherwise, if we were just 100bb deep, I don`t think I can bet/fold here... Maybe he does this move with AJ, QQ, KK or something.

preflop is too big

betting flop can be fine, but what kind of ranges were you targeting with your bet and your sizing?

To big with one huge fish and one who seems aggr. and also not a well player? We don`t have to be balanced with our preflop raising size here, I think.
Pocket pairs like QQ-KK, QT and any J in on this flop. Or do you think we should check and let the aggr. one just bluff the streets? Seems also nice..

I think a raise to 8 BB would have been fine...You have pocket AA therefore you want to keep villain in the pot and maybe get a call from the SB which is what happened. You don't want to blow everybody out of the hand when you have AA. Also sometimes maybe even a flat call might work here as well in order to keep the SB calling station in the pot with his medium / weak hand range.

lol at overcaling AA to a bu minraise and a calling station type fish (!!) calling in sb. Do you even want to make money?

Fold. No question. Havent you learned anything from the old pokerstars commercials?? If you have AA and KKx hits the flop, its an insta-muck. In all seriousness, you are likely drawing very very slim at this point. Becoming a good player includes knowing when to fold aces, this is one of those times.

To big with one huge fish and one who seems aggr. and also not a well player? We don`t have to be balanced with our preflop raising size here, I think.
Pocket pairs like QQ-KK, QT and any J in on this flop. Or do you think we should check and let the aggr. one just bluff the streets? Seems also nice..

sizing: it's quite a bit, no matter who they are. if you see them call this sizing, then by all means, but as a default i would assume 7-9bb would get more action.

postflop calling ranges: you haven't named many worse hands that can call, let alone can call more than one or two streets. you're not going to want to get more than one or two streets with aces on this board without a batshit insane image (and even 3way probably not anyway). checking lets them pick up a pair or bluff.

Fold. No question. Havent you learned anything from the old pokerstars commercials?? If you have AA and KKx hits the flop, its an insta-muck. In all seriousness, you are likely drawing very very slim at this point. Becoming a good player includes knowing when to fold aces, this is one of those times.

being a good player means knowing how to read hands. sometimes this will result in folding. developing the broader and more versatile skill of handreading is most important here.

sizing: it's quite a bit, no matter who they are. if you see them call this sizing, then by all means, but as a default i would assume 7-9bb would get more action.

postflop calling ranges: you haven't named many worse hands that can call, let alone can call more than one or two streets. you're not going to want to get more than one or two streets with aces on this board without a batshit insane image (and even 3way probably not anyway). checking lets them pick up a pair or bluff.

You can make it this big if your range is always going to consist of value hands and you are deep so want to make it slightly bigger than normal oop just to reduce positional advantage.
I think you should be cbetting here like all of the time also he did name a good amount of hands that call this flop that we beat (much more than Kx anyway). c/c here just sucks if button is ever going to bluff us as we just get put into a really bad spot where our hand is fairly face up (even tho we have the stronger end of our c/c range) as a non Kx hand. We are going to be guess calling down a lot with no real idea of where we are. You can also easily get a tonne of value from the fish so you want to bet the flop so you can get his stack.

milky, you make a lot of fundamental errors in how you think about this hand

if our range is stronger and we make it bigger we just make it easier for our opponents to fold. much easier to have a modestly more balanced range and go a normal size instead of turning our hand range face up with a lot of money left to play for.

on the flop, avoiding "really bad spots" is a bad reason to bet. when you have a hand that has close to 100% equity v bluffs, you should be particularly happy about getting bluffed.

also, the range of hands that was named is a small subset of the hands with which he reaches the flop. further, as i said above, JT, for instance, isn't calling more than two bets and may not call even two.

if you think c/c is a bad guessing game, then you really must hate betting, since it means we are getting him to continue with a stronger range rather than a weaker one.