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Villain has been super 3b and 4 bet happy. Runniny like 33/30 3b of 30

A previous hand for reference


PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $60.31
BTN: $124.57
SB: $50.25
Hero (BB): $89.99

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has J A

UTG raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $4.50, fold, Hero calls $4.00, UTG calls $3.00

Flop: ($13.75, 3 players) 3 7 A
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($13.75, 3 players) 7
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $4.48, Hero calls $4.48, fold

River: ($22.71, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN checks

Hero shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (Pre 60%, Flop 93%, Turn 100%)
BTN mucks Q T (One Pair, Sevens) (Pre 40%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $21.69


I've also been 3 bet happy (but even nowhere near as him) and we're not giving each other any respect.Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1808699
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CO: $47.81
BTN: $124.35
SB: $50.25
Hero (BB): $100.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 9
1 fold, BTN raises to $1.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4, BTN raises to $10.50, Hero calls $6.50

3bet for value and I'm calling his 4bet because he's 4betting super wide.

Flop: ($21.25) 3 4 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50

Not folding on this flop considering how wide his range is.

Turn: ($46.25) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($46.25) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $33.55, Hero ?

When he checked the turn I think that confirms that he can have a wide range before. The K hits a generic tight 4bing range as it hits AK but as I said his 4b range is a lot wider than JJ+ AK. He's stabbed in these kind of situations before but not this big.

Can Probly shove or fold 99 preflop. Plays terrible post flop.

As played I am folding here,he has a ton of Kx in his range, and when he was bluffing earlier he bet about 1/3 pot.

Just flat preflop

should expect villain to put us in these hard spots while deep...this line usually assumes thin value...dont think villain is gonna fold TP so shoving suxs and you guys dont give each other any respect..I would prob c/f looks like he wants value from Jx or worse Kx..we can deff have a FD in our range a Kx also and a Jx...so him trying to bluff us off those with your guys dynamics is prob sucide...

Just flat preflop

listen to this man. he knows.
i think your bloating the pot for no discernible reason. at least you've not given any.

also, how many hands you have on him?
cause i question your cold call of his 3bet OOP with AJs. i'd prefer a fold or a 4bet there.

68 hands.

Why are you calling a 4b oop with 99? Looks pretty terrible...

Why are you calling a 4b oop with 99? Looks pretty terrible...

as played its a fine option. However you should just flat preflop.

Remember that the deeper you get there are less hands you are gonna commit with preflop. This limits your 3bet value range heavily so you should adjust your frequencies especially OOP. It does depend abit on how likely villain is to 4bet compared to just calling IP, but the overall point stands.

btw the river is a fold against almost every villain, this line is rarely a bluff. Whenever people wake up on the river after missing an earlier bluffing spot (turn) its rarely air. Because its quite clear that if they were gonna bluff they would have just barreled.

i'll agree that calling a 4bet with 99 is a good option as long as we have more information on the villian.
68 hands is practically unknown. all we have at this stage are basic betting tendencies. and we only know he's 3bet light once, and thats cause we called OOP light the previous hand.

i'll agree that calling a 4bet with 99 is a good option as long as we have more information on the villian.
68 hands is practically unknown. all we have at this stage are basic betting tendencies. and we only know he's 3bet light once, and thats cause we called OOP light the previous hand.

I know that's he's 3 bet light more than once I only put up one hand. I do agree that I probably should have folded the river and wish I had. But he did turn up with A5o and I won. So knowing that piece of information if I similar spot came up again how would people play it.

if he's continually doing that, then you are essentially playing variance poker. that makes it a situational call.

chasing 99 on that board is extremely risky, even if we know that this guy is capable of shoving the river with a busted SD. and its not something that you should be doing all the time against him.

Can I ask what your reasoning for 3betting pre was?

Value because i think he's calling with worse.

btw the river is a fold against almost every villain, this line is rarely a bluff. Whenever people wake up on the river after missing an earlier bluffing spot (turn) its rarely air. Because its quite clear that if they were gonna bluff they would have just barreled.

I don't think this applies due to the river card. What hands would he bet for value that he checked the turn with, and than bet 2/3 pot when a K comes? He very well could have Kx here, I doubt he ever has 2pair+(he'd wanna get max value and bet turn) and doubt he has a J here(he'd not bet river so big on the scare card, he's betting thin afterall) Call river bet imo.

And yeah the preflop 3bet is a little too thin, you'd want more infomation or to be shorter stacked for it to be optimal imo.