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FlyingMachine

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Villain: 734 hands, 26/18, WtSD: 37%, W$SD: 56%, Fold to 3bet: 68%, 4bet: 11% (4/38), Fold to flop cbet: 17% (4/23), Fold to turn cbet: 17% (1/6), Fold to river cbet: 0/2 Flop bet: 42%, Flop raise: 20% (13/64)
If you watch his fold cbet stats, you can say, he floats a lot probably. He likes to raise flop cbets, but I don't saw him play in 300bb hands, so he plays these situations another way perhaps.

Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1807822
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Hero (BB): $96.32
CO: $55.48
BTN: $85.76
SB: $29.55

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is BB with A Diamond A Heart
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.10, BTN calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.35) 5 Spade 9 Club 6 Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10.35) 7 Diamond (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($10.35) 7 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.85, Hero calls $5.85

Final Pot: $22.05

I don't have so much experience in deep play, so I'm curious how you play a hand/situation/board texture like this. Was I too nitty here? Should've cbet the flop or any other streets?

Posted 12 months ago

1a2a3a

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Well result orinted im not good at deep play as well, but for my taste this play seems 2 nitty.
Flop play i would bet a bit closer to pot as the low-wet board helps to get called by FD and overpairs.
OTT i would have betted like 5-7 bucks ,getting called by most overpairs/draws bloating the pot to 20-25 bucks.I will fold to any raise as pocket 8s are probably in his range given your both deep.
OTR if he checks i bet something like 15$.
If he donk bets depending on the bet size and he agf i will evaluate.If he bets something like 2/3 or full pot ill probably fold, if he donks something like half-pot or less im calling.

Sometimes if im againt very loose oponents i might raise with an big overpairs if the board is drawy.DONT do it on raggy-rainbow boards though cause you wont get called by worse.Also another reason not to checkraise is that given your out of position you gonna get in tough spots very often.
Alternative line here is a NO-NO.

Posted 12 months ago

uselink

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we want to 3bet bigger in general(100bb) deep. to around 11-12bb!!
Now that we are deep we should go bigger ( to decrease his implied odds)

I dont like the check to be honets.. if he has 88-99 we are giving him 14% for free to hit on the turn!
Í would bet bet bet here since he dosent fold to cbets on flop or turn.,.

On this river i would prob check/call instead of betting! but could be wrong

Posted 12 months ago

FlyingMachine

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I 3bet 3,5x OOP and 3x IP mostly, I've done this here too, but yeah, I could've 3bet bigger. What you do if he raise the flop cbet? (20% raise flop stat)

Posted 12 months ago

1a2a3a

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I will Flat the raise, you keep your range somewhat wide although if he is good he knows you rarely cbet with air here.I will fold to any bet-raise on future street as i cant see him 2-3barreling oop vs your range which seems strong.

Posted 12 months ago

uselink

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I 3bet 3,5x OOP and 3x IP mostly, I've done this here too, but yeah, I could've 3bet bigger. What you do if he raise the flop cbet? (20% raise flop stat)


A raise cbet in a 3bet pot is different than ina single raised pot!

Yes but remember him only raises 2x meaning that your 3bet with a 3x raise is only going to be 9bb.. and with 300 deep.. he will call with 90% of his range i think.. Therefor we must 3bet alot bigger.. alteast 12bb+ (minimum)

Posted 12 months ago

orange

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it depends on how tough your opponent is in this spot. if he's going to raise this flop texture a lot and make your life miserable, i don't mind the flop check/call that much. it's fine to have some sort of check/call range here i think- you don't have to auto bet or auto c/f every flop texture like this when deep. that being said, betting is completely fine if you think he's fairly straight forward. (ie. he'll call with a lot of medium hands and won't turn his hand into a bluff). so yeah, it really just depends how tough you think your opponent is. you can bet/fold this flop if you don't know how to handle various turns/rivers.

as played- the river you're really just beating a bluff. i don't really mind the c/c i guess if you think he can bluff here. that being said, if he's going to bluff, it's probably going to be on the turn, given this board texture.

Posted 12 months ago

d_jsr

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If we know villain likes to float a lot would betting flop & XCing turn be a good line?

Posted 12 months ago




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