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hayes13

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Check out this article: http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/'G-Bucks'-Conceptualizing-Money-Matters.-Phil-Galfond-985.htm


This is fantastic. I read the theory of poker ages ago and know the basic ideas of G-bucks. Nice to read the full article though.
Side note: Galfond writes pretty well. Wonder how much is him or the editors of Bluff?

Posted 11 months ago

KRANTZ

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First of all, Thanks so much KRANTZ for the micros love.
http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1806034
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1806034
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $27.04 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 18, 3B: 20, AF: Infinity, Hands: 11
Hero (SB): $45.76 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 11, AF: 3.9, Hands: 20132
BB: $50.83 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 9
UTG: $8.04 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 9, 3B: 20, AF: NaN, Hands: 11
MP: $34.81 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 25
CO: $24.75 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 23, 3B: 11, AF: 2.8, Hands: 220

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.25) A Q 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.00, MP calls $4

Turn: ($14.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6.00, Hero folds


This hand is taken from zoom with few reads.
KJo or other offsuit broadways oop , I am usually 3betting pre. My flatting range is more big suited cards. It is tricky to find where 99-JJ fit into these ranges. Often if I 3bet then im playing a big pot oop and get lost about when to turn these into a bluff.

In this hand I am unsure about when to barrel or give up.Or how this dynamic changes vs CO or BTN who are flatting more pre and calling cbets.

An obvious adjustment is to just stop 3bet bluffing.

Thoughts?



I don't think you should stop 3bet bluffing. Does Zoom let you look at fold to 3b or cb in 3b pot stats?

Posted 11 months ago

hayes13

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A big overpair on a low flop when raised or check-raised. Especially in single raised pot. E.g. KK on 359r.

BTW, great idea for a thread. Thank you Krantz.


http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/6701-BalugaWhale-2-KK-with-Jk3a
this is so similar

Posted 11 months ago

hayes13

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I don't think you should stop 3bet bluffing. Does Zoom let you look at fold to 3b or cb in 3b pot stats?


Yes, just takes much longer to get stats on people since i'm always changing tables.

I find it hard to say what the best general strategy is readless. Should I wait until I have enough stats/reads to try and bluff? Hard to say if double barreling is profitable.

Posted 11 months ago

KRANTZ

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KRANTZ

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OK Krantz - tackle this one.

250BB deep. 6 max - NL100. On BTN with JJ facing a raise form UTG +1 I 3 bet, he 4 bets to 22bb.



Call. What happens on the turn? You should call the first raise though, unless he plays really loose to 3bets.

Posted 11 months ago

hayes13

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KRANTZ

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Yes, just takes much longer to get stats on people since i'm always changing tables.

I find it hard to say what the best general strategy is readless. Should I wait until I have enough stats/reads to try and bluff? Hard to say if double barreling is profitable.



Bluffing the flop probably isn't going to be profitable unless you are willing to bluff the turn, too. When it's hard to say if a bluff is profitable, I think it's a good habit to try bluffing. It's close either way, so when in doubt be aggressive. If they keep calling you, then you can stop cbetting.

Posted 11 months ago

hayes13

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Bluffing the flop probably isn't going to be profitable unless you are willing to bluff the turn, too. When it's hard to say if a bluff is profitable, I think it's a good habit to try bluffing. It's close either way, so when in doubt be aggressive. If they keep calling you, then you can stop cbetting.


Thanks for the response. Smile

Also
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/979-KRANTZ-Episode-Four

A very similar hand comes up here, where you 3b oop and double barrel Axx board.
I am playing micros and 6max but the spot seems relevant.

Posted 11 months ago

hayes13

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Call. What happens on the turn? You should call the first raise though, unless he plays really loose to 3bets.


What about flatting pre instead of 3betting vs a likely 3bettor?

Posted 11 months ago

FaceMyAlterEgo

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Why?

What happens if you add 77-TT to your 3b bluffing range? What's their calling range? Does it change after you add these hands? What's their 4b range? Does it change?



Because most players will fold way less than 60 % to blind 3bets from UTG, which makes bluffing unprofitable in a vacuum. So I need blockers and / or flopability in order to semibluff / hit and valuetown them. But I think with mid pairs I will flop sets way to seldomly, and can barely ever flop any other equity than my two set outs and the ocational weak straight draw in order to semibluff. Of course I will have some oportunitys to cbet bluff, c/c or c/r profitably, but I feel exchanging that hand with some other more connected hand (that does not allow calling pre) is better for my range. Given that, I usually just fold 22 - 66 (unless villain is bad) and rather bluff something like J9s, and take my marginal calling equity with 77 - TT.

Posted 11 months ago

KRANTZ

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Because most players will fold way less than 60 % to blind 3bets from UTG, which makes bluffing unprofitable in a vacuum. So I need blockers and / or flopability in order to semibluff / hit and valuetown them. But I think with mid pairs I will flop sets way to seldomly, and can barely ever flop any other equity than my two set outs and the ocational weak straight draw in order to semibluff. Of course I will have some oportunitys to cbet bluff, c/c or c/r profitably, but I feel exchanging that hand with some other more connected hand (that does not allow calling pre) is better for my range. Given that, I usually just fold 22 - 66 (unless villain is bad) and rather bluff something like J9s, and take my marginal calling equity with 77 - TT.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36BvyC_ODRM

Posted 11 months ago

fezoff

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This is a hypothetical hand but one I often have issues with. I don't really know what line to take, what to consider and how this should change against a TAG LAG or loose passive player?

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

UTG: $4.73 (118.3 bb)
CO: $4.73 (118.3 bb)
BTN: $5.87 (146.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $4.00 (100 bb)
BB: $4.73 (118.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 Heart 6 Diamond

UTGfolds, CO raises to $0.12, BTN folds, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: ($0.36) 2 Heart 4 Club 5 Diamond

Hero? BB could have anything here, and against CO range we are about 50% if his opening is 20 %

Betting for value seems to be an option, but we can't really be called by anything we beat. Checking seems weak as we would probably have to call the standard c-bet from CO and it won't really tell us anything about his hand.

Is it as simple as b/f c/f?

Posted 11 months ago

cowman9000

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Playing small PP's in the small blind and being OOP on the flop.
Against a villian who is opening wide on the BTN can I raise for value with medium PP's or am I check-calling down safe flops, turns, and rivers that are likely to miss villian's range. For example, the hand below

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: $5.06
UTG: $5.00
MP: $18.45
CO: $4.15
BTN: $5.14
Hero (SB): $6.02

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 7Club 7Diamond

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 2Club 4Diamond 5Spade
Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.15, 2 players) 5Diamond
Hero bets $1.60, BTN calls $1.60

River: ($5.35, 2 players) 3Heart
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.49 and is all-in

Hero ????

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