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HI all,

The villian is a complete unkown but it seems fishy, not 100 bb, min PR UTG, dnk call,

i Have 13 hand (useless) so far 45/25 5 AF WTSD 1 in 5 W$WSF 4 out of 5

PF i def raise for value, once he call its har to give him a range, my best guess is

22-JJ, most broadway, A4s is possible, and maybe 34, 45, 46

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($14)
BB ($18.47)
UTG ($20.25)
UTG+1 ($50.80)
UTG+2 ($33.32)
MP1 ($31.30)
MP2 ($27.08)
Hero ($31.84)
BTN ($93.96)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

UTG raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1

FLOP ($3.35) 8 4 4

UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $4.60, UTG calls $3.60

TURN ($12.55) 8 4 4 A

UTG bets $11.99, Hero folds

Hero?


Once he donk i think 99-JJ, A8, and some FD

The turn is an ace, my original was to bet any non club brodway and unless i boated chk rvr.

When he donk again, not AI, i comfirm he is a fish and that this is either a 4 or A8

right fold?
if he donked 1/2 pot would you call?
and if so whats your plan for the river?
If it was the Ac or Kc and he shoved would you call?

He's very aggressive by the sounds of it and certainly has a wide range but i think your not going to be good enough to call (put the rest in) but only just. I've seen this a lot from hands like FD's or TT that is scared and betting the scare card themselves with no real reason but in this instance to often your beat by an ace that caught up and doesnt want to let you draw to the club...

Calling a halfp donk with $8 behind is commiting yourself so if you call the halfpot you should be planning to call riv allowing him to bluff or just shoving on him. Still i dont see much differnence between halfp and pot.

Hey

I think that 45/13 is probably useful in guessing that he's fishy even over a ridic 13 hand sample. The big PFR/VPIP gap AND the high VPIP leads me to think that it's likely to be significant.

Anyhoo,

3b bigger pre flop, you're missing out on a ton of value.

His flop range I think is wider than the one you've assigned (because of his high VPIP) - I'd give him:

hands w value but worse: 68, 78, 89, 8T, K8, A8, 55-77, 99-JJ
hands that beat you: A4, 34, 45, 46, 44, 88, (KK-AA only sometimes)
draws: lots of clubs, 56, 57, 67
random spaz hands (AK, AQ, AJ, AT, A9)

IMO, his high W$WSF means he's either gone on a rush, or likes to try to win pots (only 1/5 went to SD, so through aggression). I know that the turn sucks but, a few things are in our favour: Not a lot of Ax in his range, his aggression, and his tendency not to want to fold.

I'd shove and get value from draws and 8x. The information you gain from seeing his hand or getting him to fold is also valuable BECAUSE he's likely to be a huge fish and he's the guy that you'll be winning money from.

thx for all ur comments