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SchFerreira

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yeh i have 30BI, im considering dropping down to 20 to shot take a little more aggressively.



20 BIs was a reasonable roll back in 2006, when 50NL played like 5NL plays now, and 400NL played like 50NL plays now.

You'd be amazed how often I have 10 BIs swings at 200NL, so yeah, go figure. Anything less than 50 means you have to be prepared to move up or down everytime you have a big session in either direction.

Posted 12 months ago

DJ Sensei

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One important concept that would be relevant here (especially if you're trying to move up in stakes more aggressively) is to separate your bankroll into 'regular roll' and 'shot-taking fund'. The breakdown between the two should be somewhere between 75/25 and 90/10, depending on how risk-averse or aggressive you are. When you see a very good game at higher stakes (often this will involve chasing a particular fish) then you can use your shot-taking fund to play in it, but you absolutely should not dip into your regular roll if you do poorly. It might help to turn off your auto-rebuy/topup. If you win money during your shot (hooray!) don't just leave it in your shot fund, put most of it back into your regular roll. Remember that the main point here is to build your roll up gradually until it is big enough to play higher stakes on a regular basis (as well as to gain confidence playing for higher stakes).

On a related note, most people shouldn't limit themselves to one 'regular level'. Often you'll want to play games across multiple stakes for game selection purposes, because your winrate in a very good x/2x game will often be higher than your winrate in a decent 2x/4x one.

Posted 12 months ago

ambtndplyr

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all of that sounds kinda crazy to me. i have 150 buy ins and cash out one big amount of 50 bis every time i reach 200 (mostly end of a month when rband races transfer etc comes)
playing with 25 or 7 sounds crazy to me with swings

Posted 12 months ago

shuttle

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all of that sounds kinda crazy to me. i have 150 buy ins and cash out one big amount of 50 bis every time i reach 200 (mostly end of a month when rband races transfer etc comes)
playing with 25 or 7 sounds crazy to me with swings


do you ever move up?

Posted 12 months ago

ambtndplyr

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do you ever move up?



i play nl200 mainly and do that for quite some time now. have played higher in the past

Posted 12 months ago

DJ Sensei

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all of that sounds kinda crazy to me. i have 150 buy ins and cash out one big amount of 50 bis every time i reach 200 (mostly end of a month when rband races transfer etc comes)
playing with 25 or 7 sounds crazy to me with swings



I guess you're on Euro sites, but if you're winning 50bi a month I really don't see why you'd keep so much online! It's obv unlikely that your site would implode like FTP, but why take the risk when there is a fair amount of precedent?

Posted 12 months ago

action_jp

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I guess you're on Euro sites, but if you're winning 50bi a month I really don't see why you'd keep so much online! It's obv unlikely that your site would implode like FTP, but why take the risk when there is a fair amount of precedent?


Yeah I agree with this - ambtndplyr, I assume that your BR is a significant portion of your net worth - I'd suggest taking a good portion of it out to reduce your risk & exposure to poker site security.. also on say, 50BI @200NL you can make something like $500/yr on interest even being conservative!
Free 2.5 BI IMO.

Posted 12 months ago

ambtndplyr

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hm dont really know. i consider what i have on euro site + stars + neteller as my bankroll
within those 3 things i try to have a balanced thing between those 3 (say 10k on each) for reducing risk purposes (and also for those 3 i wanna have those 150bis at least)
my cashing out (as soon as i have 200 spread across those 3) is always neteller to bank account and after that i balance again between eurosite, stars and neteller
and i dont make 50bis a month regularly if my post could be read like that. its like ~4k with race/rb + whatever the winnings are as an average so far this year; but obviously highly depending on volume that differs a lot from month to month because of travel (what can give me a month without a single hand played) and university, sometimes Smile

Posted 12 months ago

euEra

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no i mean if money is not important to you and you can easilly redeposit, you have bigger BR for nl100 and not just 7BI


ah i see, i dont think i am good enough to beat 100NL (im not delutional haha) im just going to move up the ladder

Posted 12 months ago

uselink

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yeh i have 30BI, im considering dropping down to 20 to shot take a little more aggressively.


I am playing with a 20Bi BR at the moment at 50NL...

" i am able to reaload"

But if we just really bumhunt alot, playing an aggresive BR management is good. Also because the rake below 50NL is insane.. (still pretty big at 50 tho)

Posted 12 months ago

euEra

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I am playing with a 20Bi BR at the moment at 50NL...

" i am able to reaload"

But if we just really bumhunt alot, playing an aggresive BR management is good. Also because the rake below 50NL is insane.. (still pretty big at 50 tho)


True that, i am table selecting and seat selecting meticulously.

Posted 12 months ago

euEra

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all of that sounds kinda crazy to me. i have 150 buy ins and cash out one big amount of 50 bis every time i reach 200 (mostly end of a month when rband races transfer etc comes)
playing with 25 or 7 sounds crazy to me with swings


This to me in my situation is extremely crazy! Yes i would be a lot safer but i would never ever move up it would litterally be impossible and a massive waste of time. If you are living off poker 150BI is great and you are being very smart. Moving up especially from the micros with 150BI is just ridiculous imo.

Posted 12 months ago

shuttle

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Playing at the micros with 150buyins is always a significant mistake.

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