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yack83

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Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1791977
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BB: $25.70 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 18, 3B: 21, AF: 0.0, Hands: 40

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q Diamond Q Club
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $6.50, BB raises to $25.70, Hero ??

Should I be folding here?

Posted 12 months ago

Usurer

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SCS

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Please don't ever 4bet QQ and then fold to a 5 bet 100bbs deep.

Posted 12 months ago

Justanothernickname

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What result do you hope for after you 4bet? Fold?

Posted 11 months ago

yack83

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What result do you hope for after you 4bet? Fold?



Well, people do fold to 4B all the time. I don't understand what you are trying to say?

Posted 11 months ago

Armisan

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Well, people do fold to 4B all the time. I don't understand what you are trying to say?



If you are not going to stack off to 5bet then you shouldn`t 4bet and flat a 3bet in the first place and if you are expecting villain to fold (or trying to get villain to fold) better do that with junk hands you don`t see any value flatting 3bet IP (T8o, A7o, KTo etc.).

Posted 11 months ago

yack83

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But we can fold out say AK, that we are flipping with, so we can get to fold hands with equity against our hand and on the other hand we do get some info. Do people really 5B a lot worse than our hand? If we just call and get a dry, low flop and the turn and river bricks and we still hold an overpair, we pay him off a lot when he has KK and AA. But if we 4B fold we save some money, don't you agree?

Posted 11 months ago

Noreaga

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Please don't ever 4bet QQ and then fold to a 5 bet 100bbs deep.


+1
Never 3 or 4b hands that ur not prepared to 5b/stack off with.

Posted 11 months ago

Armisan

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But we can fold out say AK, that we are flipping with, so we can get to fold hands with equity against our hand and on the other hand we do get some info. Do people really 5B a lot worse than our hand? If we just call and get a dry, low flop and the turn and river bricks and we still hold an overpair, we pay him off a lot when he has KK and AA. But if we 4B fold we save some money, don't you agree?



So don`t pay him off.
If villain never calls/5bets AK tighten your value 4bet/call range to KK+ and add a ton of shitty hands to 4bet/fold that way exploiting his tight folding and flat everything else while you let AK see the flop you also play vs wider 3bet range you actually don`t mind playing postflop in position.

Posted 11 months ago

yack83

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So don`t pay him off.
If villain never calls/5bets AK tighten your value 4bet/call range to KK+ and add a ton of shitty hands to 4bet/fold that way exploiting his tight folding and flat everything else while you let AK see the flop you also play vs wider 3bet range you actually don`t mind playing postflop in position.



This is a very good point.

Thanks so much for the help!
Really need to work on may 3B/4B ranges.

Posted 11 months ago




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