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Le Bourlingueur

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Poker Stars $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1780631
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SB: $41.72
BB: $20.62
Hero (UTG): $16.43
MP: $16.00
CO: $16.00
BTN: $12.71

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is UTG with A Club A Diamond
Hero raises to $0.80, 1 fold, CO calls $0.80, 2 folds, BB calls $0.64

Flop: ($2.48) T Club 2 Club 7 Diamond (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.30, CO calls $1.30, BB calls $1.30

Turn: ($6.38) Q Diamond (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $9.86, BB folds

Final Pot: $6.38


Vilain 24/17 AF 1. I raise bigger preflop because SB is a big whale calling any 2. Vilain overbets a lot preflop when he 3bets but never saw a showdown when he do this. No other read.

Is this a fold vs a passive player (sample size of 600 hands...)?

Posted 12 months ago

kReATivE

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Why are you checking the turn here? Seems to me to be a super easy b/f spot.

Posted 12 months ago

Frank959

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I don't think I'm folding here. Also I'm not crazy about your betting size. On a draw heavy board you should be betting $2.00 into $2.40 with 2 players behind you, you want to charge them for drawing hands. You only bet $1.30 which gives the BB and CO a decent price to see the turn. Also you should bet the turn, I still don't see anything that scares me. I feel like if the BB had a set he would want to keep you in the hand and try stack you.....as opposed to just over betting the pot and chasing everybody out.....

Posted 12 months ago

Nunc est bibendum

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Bet bigger flop (1.90- 2.00) b/f turn turn.

Vilain overbets a lot preflop when he 3bets

- what does it mean? He can overbet postflop, but pre?

Posted 12 months ago

Adriano85

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Your cbet is way too small imo. I would bet $2.
Turn is also a bet. You don't want to give free cards on this board, that's terrible.
As played, tbh, I have no idea. I might jam because I expect I can get called by FD's that made a pair with a Q or T.. But like I said, not sure because the line you took messed it up imo.

Posted 12 months ago

KingKris91

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I would just bet,bet,bet this. I would also as others have suggested definitely cbet bigger (at least $2 but maybe even full pot).
Anyhow as played I'm not folding to the villan's overbet. He would bet smaller with sets imo so this seems a lot like a flush draw when he overbets.

Posted 12 months ago

Squarebarrell_Gunmonkey

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I'm new to the forums, but not new to poker. Needless to say, take my advice and thoughts as is, this is just how I would play it.

1st Street - FLOP
The board isn't particularly draw heavy, and you have his range crushed on the flop with the exception of hands such as 22, 77, TT. This is just a small portion of his range. Overpairs, and pocket pairs is what I have him on, so I'd bet 2/3 pot here, around 1.80 - 2.00 somewhere in that ballpark. I think your bet sizing was too low there, I think you were trying to make it cheap enough for the whale to come along in the BB?

2nd Street - TURN
The queen of diamonds doesn't hurt your equity here, no draw type hands made it, I actually think its +EV for you because it opens up some flush and straight draws that the villians will call you on. Unlikely you will see QT here show up, but it is possible. I think you have more then enough equity to bet here, bet size of 5.00.

I don't think your check is a very good +EV move, you have a hand that you need to be value betting and the board isn't THAT scary. Unless you planned on check raising the turn? Which is fine against an aggresive player, but you said this player was passive, so to me that's a -EV move.

I believe he is overbetting this turn for two reasons:
1) He has air or a marginal made hand with a draw opportunity, and seeing your check on the turn he decides to over bet the pot to win it. Which if you planned on check raising the turn anyways isn't it an instant ship it? I'm more scared of a value'd size bet on the turn enticing you to call then some enormous overbet.
2) He has a set that's he been slow playing and seeing you slow down he's trying to get his money in.

As played, I'd go with option 1 and ship it. I think you will see him show up with pocket 88's, and pocket 99's here a lot, or some kind of JTs type hand that connected on the board and had some draw possibilities.

Posted 12 months ago




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