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[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.78 (127.8 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $29.80 (298 bb)
BTN: $10.81 (108.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
MP folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.80, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.70) 2 3 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.35, CO calls $1.35, SB folds

Turn: ($5.40) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, CO calls $2.70

River: ($10.80) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.83, CO calls $7.83

[spoil]Results: $26.46 pot ($1.76 rake)
Final Board: 2 3 2 8 8
Hero mucked T T and lost (-$12.78 net)
CO showed A A and won $24.70 ($11.92 net)
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Not much info about both villains UTG 22/17 and Bu unknown. Im doubting if i can get value on the river from worse.

I think you posted results by accident

How much equity have you vs villains turn calling range ?

With a raise and a re-raise against players I'm not to sure about, plus being OOP I think I might fold this hand....However in this situation I would try a freeze play on the turn. I would check the turn, if villain bets $2.70 I would raise it to $6.00. If he shoves then you are probably beat and you can get away without losing more money on the river.

With a raise and a re-raise against players I'm not to sure about, plus being OOP I think I might fold this hand....However in this situation I would try a freeze play on the turn. I would check the turn, if villain bets $2.70 I would raise it to $6.00. If he shoves then you are probably beat and you can get away without losing more money on the river.

Are you doing this for value or as a bluff? Maybe if we were IP we could raise small to get to a cheaper showdown, but not OOP.

Are you just checkfolding river if Vill calls turn CR?

Your not doing it for value or a bluff.....your doing it to freeze the action and to see where you stand in the hand. If you check and villain bets $2.70 you can re-raise it to $6.00. Now if villain shoves then you are dead and are probably losing to over cards and you can safely fold. If villain just calls, then check the river and maybe he will check the river. Hence you freeze the action. Also it will save you money because you will only lose $6.00 instead of $10.53......To balance your betting lines you can also do this with a made hand.....

Betting/raising for info is bad especially when you are going to be putting 2/3 of your stack in the middle to 'find out'.

You're really just letting villain play his hand perfectly, I think he'll fold whatever underpair he's got (if he doesn't fold flop), & call with anything better than TT.

Also, there's 17.40 in the pot on the river & we have 4.35 left, if villain has any clue he'll bet river with whatever he gets there with

Lets say his turn calling range is something like: 44,55,66,77,99,TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA,A8. We have just under 50% equity, as he's unkown we can take out some combos of AA and KK and maybe QQ as he reraises pre with these hands. So against this range I think we can b/f otr, i'd make it small though, maybe like 1/2 pot.

Also, I agree that folding pre is probably best, especially as we're not closing the action, and we're against an unkown.

The main point is this hand should have been folded pre-flop with a raise and re-raise in front of you, from villains who you don't have any information on....and look what happens now....you're in a shit situation that could have been avoided in the first place....Also there is nothing wrong with the freeze play, if your going to bet on every street, why not just check-raise the turn and fold to a shove which will end up saving you almost $5.00. By betting every street is playing right into the villains hands because all he has to do is sit back and keep on clicking the call button with pocket AA.....Pocket TT is a hard hand to play...and I have had my fair share of mistakes, and I am still learning......

Turn itself is close, and river is a disaster - no worse hand will call and no better will fold. If you bet flop and turn you should check/fold the river.