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Le Bourlingueur

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Vilain 24/12, af 2, first time he 3bets, but only 70 hands. Do you call this shove?

And what about preflop...Is flatting an option? I tought his 3bets looked really weak in this situation. Opinions?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1779029
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CO: $36.57
BTN: $25.69
SB: $25.45
Hero (BB): $49.77
UTG: $51.82
MP: $25.67

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Q Diamond Q Club
UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $4.20

Flop: ($13.50) 5 Spade 3 Spade J Spade (2 players)
Hero bets $8.20, BTN raises to $19.49 all in

Hero?

Posted 12 months ago

gamble_ftw

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You have to call now, but I wouldn't 4bet pre. It looks incredibly strong and this guy doesn't seem the type to splash around

Posted 12 months ago

SirPWNsalot

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His 3bet sizing sucks. But i THINK a call is the easier play with no read?

Firstly UTG raised UTG, a somewhat tight player which we have no read on has 3bet even though it is small. our 4bet seams super strong here. And he calls, so I guess his calling range could be TT+ and AJ+ which is still somewhat wide for his stats? I dont see him shipping TT here so i guess it is something like JJ+ or maybe AJ/AQ/AK with a spade, just guessing.

Don't have stove here at work but i guess you have to call giving the size of the pot as gamble mentioned and if you giving him the range I am.

Posted 12 months ago

gamble_ftw

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Firstly UTG raised UTG



My mind just blew up!

Posted 12 months ago

yack83

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I think this is a fold. His range is ahead by a lot. Even if he has AK with a spade you are flipping.
He is shoving with JJ, AKs of spades, and AK with a spade and he maybe even flatted AA. So you are not doing well. I think this is a -EV call.

Posted 12 months ago

SirPWNsalot

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My mind just blew up!



Was trying to get it out there that his range is tight....

Posted 12 months ago

crazydbird

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I think you see AA or KK probably with a spade almost every time here. I don't see many hands, that take his line, that you are ahead of at this point.

Posted 12 months ago

Le Bourlingueur

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Agree with everybody who said I am behind here.

And I should have cbet half pot maybe to leave me some more room.

And what is our play with Q spade? Does it change the hand that much here or are we still a lot behind his range?

Posted 12 months ago

yack83

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I would CB half pot or little over. And the Q of spades doesn't change much, because you either have a worst flush draw or only a flush draw, with which you are behind.

Posted 12 months ago

Frank959

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OOP I might check here for pot control. From just this hand it looks like villain has weird betting patterns. If you check he might go all in and which case you could fold, or he might bet half pot or less in which case you can call the flop. If he bets the turn again I'm folding no matter what the next card is.....

Posted 12 months ago




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