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Tech9ines

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Boss $30.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1770105
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SB: $27.30
BB: $39.94
UTG: $28.35
MP: $28.94
CO: $29.55
Hero (BTN): $54.89

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is BTN with J Club A Club
1 fold, MP calls $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 1 fold, BB calls $1.05, MP raises to $5.40, Hero calls $4.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($12.30) T Club K Heart 5 Club (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

[b]Turn:
($12.30) A Heart (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6.30, MP calls $6.30

[b]River:
($24.90) A Spade (2 players)

villian 26/16 total aggf 2.95 1500hands
3b OOP 8.8 cb3b pot 62 Fcb3b pot 20

some notes on 3b pots

3b/call K8s on Kxx 2tone hero (AKs)
limp/3b fold from SB vs BB 99-QQ?
call 3b OOP ATo x/x/b psb at riv board TxxxT
limp/3b AQo in CO.....

my estimated range from shown down hands and PF fold to 4bets
55-22,AJo+,KJo+,QJo
would you add more/less to this and why???
my BTN raise for the sample size he would have on me would around 29%
these limp 3b vs hero have only been happening recently
what line would you take here????? bet size?? $9-$10? OTF that is
i think i should hav bet this flop, my equity vs this range is 57% making a bet +EV
however as played OTT now its checked through i feel we are were left with
55-22,AQo-AJo,QJo
which my equity improves to 61% but also smashes villians range?
and plan for the river?
what im lost by is its unlikely for villian to not be aggressive in this scenario???

Posted about 1 year ago

UU!I.I.4AAUU35

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i think i should hav bet this flop, my equity vs this range is 57% making a bet +EV


I think checking behind may be better, since he could c/r and also, even if you are ahead of his range on the flop, vs his c/r or calling range you may be a dog.

Posted about 1 year ago

aggrosquid

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I'd fold pre, limp re-raise looks strong from this fish.
As played I'd bet bet bet.

Posted about 1 year ago

shuttle

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I'd bet the flop here for sure. A good hint at why is the minimum stackoff equity required here to be +EV given the spr. As played it's most definitely a weird spot and we need to estimate the frequency that he slowplays here and the frequency he pays off with worse on the river.

Posted about 1 year ago

SchFerreira

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Why did you call pre if you don't think his range is wide enough for you to be happy stacking off on pretty much the best flop imaginable?

Posted about 1 year ago

Tech9ines

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Why did you call pre if you don't think his range is wide enough for you to be happy stacking off on pretty much the best flop imaginable?



i would expect villian to cbet this flop 100% which is why i didnt bet/raise, the check made me suuspicious

given his aggression,

my plan, is to raise/call villians cbet, we have enough equity to stack off here vs this range, this villian will "never" limp 3bet TT-AA AJs+

my range on the BTN is also wide enough for villian to do this with the same frequency he would from the blinds,

my guess is tis is a new strategy vs hero that villian is employing

Posted about 1 year ago

Tech9ines

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I'd bet the flop here for sure. A good hint at why is the minimum stackoff equity required here to be +EV given the spr. As played it's most definitely a weird spot and we need to estimate the frequency that he slowplays here and the frequency he pays off with worse on the river.



in my time vs this opponent ive never seen a slwplayed TT-AA, AJs+,

Stack to Pot ratio is something i really need to study more too? any tips?

i think this is very close almost always when villian calls a bet otf or ott, with this particular turn

Posted about 1 year ago

Tech9ines

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I'd fold pre, limp re-raise looks strong from this fish.



this is too nitty vs this aggro reg,
as i have position, and most of his stats seem to be fine has a decent wwsf w$sd wtsd so far

Posted about 1 year ago

aggrosquid

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this is too nitty vs this aggro reg,
as i have position, and most of his stats seem to be fine has a decent wwsf w$sd wtsd so far



Sorry I just saw his stack size, and I don't think so, limp reraise is just usually so strong.

Posted about 1 year ago

Tech9ines

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Sorry I just saw his stack size, and I don't think so, limp reraise is just usually so strong.




blockers to his range are something to take into accout with your said point,

and also somthing i forgot to mention is villian will stack off with KK on A high flops, another reason this is a call pre

Posted about 1 year ago

Tech9ines

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Sorry I just saw his stack size



this is just a software issue, villian always plays a full stack, but you have to reload manually, maybe he wasnt quick enough on the cashier button lol

Posted about 1 year ago

aggrosquid

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What do you think his range for limp/reraising pre is?

Edit: Just re-read first post;

I think that range is very wife, I'd put him onn a much tighter range when he linp/rr something like 99+ AQ+ . The hands we've seen him do this before have been within this range, and I think he likely calls with lower PPs/weaker broadways, suited connecters etc..

Against that range we're in pretty bad shape, and as he's an aggresive reg, he'll be c-betting/barreling often post flop, so we're going to be losing big pots when an Ace hits and he holds a hand that dominates us, losing often when we miss, and the only hand we win a big pot against is KK when we flop an ace.

This all hinges on the range we assign him for limp-reraising, and In my experience players only tend to do this with strong hands.

Posted about 1 year ago

Tech9ines

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This all hinges on the range we assign him for limp-reraising, and In my experience players only tend to do this with strong hands.



i agree with this, however, as ive been analyzing this villian and replaying all of these spots it seems villian is doing this in spots where blinds are folding 80%+ to LP raisers, in this particular case i feel villian trying to steal a few extra blinds....

i definately agree with alot of what youve said and also in my experience limp/3bets are strong 95% of the time

Posted about 1 year ago

aggrosquid

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i agree with this, however, as ive been analyzing this villian and replaying all of these spots it seems villian is doing this in spots where blinds are folding 80%+ to LP raisers, in this particular case i feel villian trying to steal a few extra blinds....



Calling pre looks good then

Posted about 1 year ago

dietchipz

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i agree with this, however, as ive been analyzing this villian and replaying all of these spots it seems villian is doing this in spots where blinds are folding 80%+ to LP raisers, in this particular case i feel villian trying to steal a few extra blinds....

i definately agree with alot of what youve said and also in my experience limp/3bets are strong 95% of the time



Seriously??^^ seems more like a very slim reason to call...We most likely 3 bet because he calls with worse..Not limp RR w worse unless hes adjusting to you for crazy 3 betting him...if hes limp RR with a wide range its a easy v-bet on river

Posted about 1 year ago




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