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Armisan

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Villain is 25/11 WTSD 27% (11) with 22% aggro frequency overall in 57 hands.

And on the river I got really confused in the heat of the moment what would be best value line.

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1757207
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SB: $25.73
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $8.78
CO: $20.77
BTN: $20.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A Diamond A Spade
1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO calls $1

Flop: ($2.60) 8 Heart Q Club A Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $1.98, CO calls $1.98

Turn: ($6.56) 4 Spade (2 players)
Hero bets $4.25, CO calls $4.25

River: ($15.06) 8 Diamond (2 players)

Hero ???

Villain is left with 13.3$ and Hero covers.

Posted about 1 year ago

Adriano85

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bananee

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how is there anything else to do but shove? i don't get it...

Posted about 1 year ago

Armisan

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how is there anything else to do but shove? i don't get it...



Ok I think villain`s range on the river look like weak Ax, weak Qx, 8x, JT, some gutshots , FD.
So potential callers for a shove are Ax, 8x and maybe stronger Qx and there are not a lot of A and 8 left for him to have (it`s just a small portion of his range on the river) and if he has 8 the money goes in anyways. So that`s why I ask what do you guys think is shove still the best line to take?

Posted about 1 year ago

bananee

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i didn't see the title, sorry.

without specific reads that villain will bluff a lot, i shove 100%

Posted about 1 year ago

JaKoB_19

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This is easy shove. Highly doubt you have read that villain is bluffy on river with missed draws after 57 hands. Plus does he expect you to fold Ax when all draws miss? There are also basically zero 8x hands in villain's range that get to river. This is going to be FD, Ax, Qx a lot of times. I shove and hope villain is bad and calls light.

Posted about 1 year ago

SavingForBenz

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Shove, you don't need to get called every time for this to be MEV.

Posted about 1 year ago

MI5 Mark

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I would only check if he was an aggro spaz who would bet all bluffs and weak hands but always fold if I bet. Or I would bet really small like 3 dollars if he would fold to a shove but might bluff raise or just check fold otehrwise.

But I would have to have amazing reads to take these lines I would just shove 95% of the time

Posted about 1 year ago

sklien

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I would bet a little bit bigger on the turn. Think You will get called lighter when its not a pot bet all in. And the turn is a blank, so dont think he will fold any draw or made hand regardless of what you bet.

folds some pp and maybe a 8. but that will prob fold anyway.

Posted about 1 year ago

Armisan

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After thinking a bit about this hand I kinda like the idea betting small like 5-6$ targeting specifically bluff catchers and increasing Qx, Ax calling frequency and giving opportunity to shove once in a blue moon with missed draw (unlikely but still a possibility).

With AK shoving is the best I think.

Posted about 1 year ago




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