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skuzza

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Hey all, Been rather inactive recently due to in real life events, But an intresting one to get me back into the swing of things Poke Tongue

Villian is a 30/17 over a small sample, seemed aggressive.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1750110
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MP2: $9.09
CO: $9.22
BTN: $4.11
SB: $10.14
BB: $4.00
UTG: $10.00
Hero (UTG+1): $23.58
MP1: $4.13

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with Q Club Q Heart
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.15) 7 Club J Club Q Diamond (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.82, MP2 folds, SB calls $0.82

Turn: ($2.79) 8 Club (2 players)
SB bets $8.97 all in, Hero ????????

Posted about 1 year ago

skuzza

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Temptation to call was fairly agonizing, as i felt my club outs were good, plus the chance of boating up. I just dislike the price very much Poke Tongue

Posted about 1 year ago

StueysKid

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I think I'm calling. His overbet here is super polarized (which doesn't make it a call, it just means there will be a percentage that you're beating) - the way I see it, you may have a redraw to the flush (not known if he has a better flush or not) + a redraw to the full house... for some weird reason, I'm wanting to think he's more likely to have the straight than the flush, but I have absolutely no basis for that opinion.

Posted about 1 year ago

Drew.A.Blanc

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Drew.A.Blanc

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. for some weird reason, I'm wanting to think he's more likely to have the straight than the flush,.




and you want to call ? easy fold

Posted about 1 year ago

Armisan

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Let`s see. You are getting 1.3 to 1 so you need at least 43% equity to call and break even excluding rake ( with rake you will lose 9bb from the pot so odds would be 1.21 to 1 and will need 45% equity to break even).

If we only give villain a range of some Ax clubs (6), 1/3 T9o (4), 1/2 T9s (2), you get only 28% equity resulting into folding :

Board: 8c 7c Jc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.841% 27.84% 00.00% 147 0.00 { QcQh }
Hand 1: 72.159% 72.16% 00.00% 381 0.00 { AcKc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Tc9c, Td9d, Tc9d, Td9c, Th9c, Ts9c }

Now let`s start widening his shove range to see where we can call. If we add let`s say 4 combos with A Club like AQo and AJo and 1 combo of JJ we get about break even point where we can call and anything wider becomes +EV call:

Board: 8c 7c Jc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.652% 44.65% 00.00% 334 0.00 { QcQh }
Hand 1: 55.348% 55.35% 00.00% 414 0.00 { JhJs, AcKc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Tc9c, Td9d, AcQs, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, Tc9d, Td9c, Th9c, Ts9c }

You get about break even point if he shoves 4 combos of sets instead of AQo and AJo too:

Board: 8c 7c Jc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.313% 45.31% 00.00% 319 0.00 { QcQh }
Hand 1: 54.688% 54.69% 00.00% 385 0.00 { JdJh, JdJs, JhJs, 7h7s, AcKc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Tc9c, Td9d, Tc9d, Td9c, Th9c, Ts9c }


So in conclusion it`s a tough spot and only depends on the villain`s capability to semibluff. (If you spot mistakes in my math fell free to correct).

Posted about 1 year ago

HighOctane

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If he were going for value, he should bet normal size since you probably check back the turn with a lot of your range. So snap call.

Posted about 1 year ago

HighOctane

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His play is sweet if he was overbetting to polarize his range and induce a call. But more than likely he was afraid of getting rivered.

Posted about 1 year ago

Drew.A.Blanc

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If he were going for value, he should bet normal size since



Bad players don't do what there supposed to do.

Posted about 1 year ago

skuzza

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Thanks for all the great responces, just wish i knew what the river card would of been Poke Tongue

Posted about 1 year ago




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