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Villain: 50 hands, 48/8, AFq: 39%, Flop bet: 5%, Fold to flop cbet: 50% (6/12), Fold to turn cbet: 100% (2/2), and an interesting stat: River bet: 88% (7/8)

Ongame Network $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1744686
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BB: $30.43
UTG: $21.36
MP: $20.00
CO: $32.41
Hero (BTN): $24.52
SB: $22.77

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with K A
UTG calls $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.30) 4 2 K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2

Turn: ($6.30) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG calls $3.50

River: ($13.30) 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $10

Hero?

No read on him. Can we call this? What is his range? His river bet% is damn too high!

Your turn sizing is wayyyy too low.
Fold river as played unless you get a read on him:
1. your sample is way too small for a conclusion about bet river %
2. a high bet river % is not the same as x/c,x/c donk 3/4 line

Your opponent seems passive, if you want to call your bluffcatching,
you don't have any reads or proper information to warrant a bluffcatch here, because for sure he's not doing this with a worse hand for value.

If you call here you are just levelling yourself into going he's got a busted flushdraw here. You have no idea if he plays a flushdraw this way, if he even donks river with a busted draw, and if he does it if he does it often enough to get the odds to bluffcatch.

Untill you get solid reads, don't look at stats like bet river %, and jump to conclusions from it. Get reads from hands who went to showdown.

Hope this is of some help to you.

bluff catching a passive player without big reasons to seems bad and kinda suckered.

Yeah, my turn size sucks. Both of you are right, thank you for the answers. But what kind of range can he have with this play? 100%, that he can't have flush and 98%, he can't have straight (except the weird 35 and 58) I think he bet, c/r his set at least on the turn. And I forgot to say, that he done this play before once, but there was no showdown. Other thing: his bet is pretty big. If he want me to call with a set or two pair, why he bet this big, and why he choose this weird line?

not to sound like im oversimplifying poker too much but really weak passive players ( depending on the texture of the board) probably need 2p+ to make an aggressive move. they are just looking at the absolute hand strength, and maybe thinking "oh scary board". that's probably about it. dont try to apply high level thinking to someone like this is what im saying

How did he get to bet the river 7 out of 8 times in 50 hands while folding to 50% of flop and 100% of turn cbets? How is this even possible?

I mean I agree that 50 hands is a small sample, but you should have reads or at least some speculations if you have seen him bet the river 7 times before! Did he always bet big? How often out of those did he donk river after caling flop and turn? How many might have been a stab after the turn went check check?
What's with the one time he didn't bet? Did he show his hand down? etc. There is so much info to be gained in those 50 hands which could sway the decision either way imo.

Hey,

I also play on ongame. I have experienced two different kind of donks on the river.
1. block bet with a weakfish hand, looking for a cheaper showdown.
2. The nuts.

I try to get a good read on their bet sizing etc, and what they have done previously. My first instinct, is that this is the latter. Seems dumb to blocker bet $10/$13, when you might even be value better around that mark. Therefore as played, I'd fold. I think anything up to $6-7 I'd call. Because it could lean towards the earlier. But it's still pretty close.

I'm never ever folding here. Yes he's a loose-passive, but if there is ever a spot a player like this will put in a big bet as a bluff it's as a really obviously bad desperation bluff on the river. Especially with a 7/8 bet river + occasionally he may value own himself (pretty rare though) and we're near the top of our range.

Hmm everyone else seems to think this is a fold, I must be running into some crazy fish because I think I make a lot of money calling vs this type of player in these type of spots.

So villain has a af of 39% and bet 7/8 rivers but still he is passive?

Arent we mixxing passive preflop with passive postflop here? Wouldnt a player like this have Kx, weak made hands or bluffs here?

Do you know if villain joined the table with 100bb? If not his 7/8 riverbets didnt really make him a profitt....(which doesnt have to mean anything but still points toward a certain direction if anything)