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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1727361
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CO: $6.54 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: NaN, AF: 0.5, Hands: 2
Hero (BTN): $10.84 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.0, Hands: 62641

CO posts a big blind ($0.10)

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BTN with 7 5
2 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.85) 9 A J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.56, CO calls $0.56

Turn: ($1.97) 4 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1.12, CO calls $1.12

River: ($4.21) Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $2.81, CO raises to $4.51, Hero calls $1.70

first hand with him, he pay to enter as cutoff, he also only play 1 table and buy in for 65.4BB
I assume he is a fish and easy to play after flop.

What do you think about the hand.

I think you get the odds to call here because u need to call 1.70 for a 11 dollar pot if I'm right. Assuming villain (fish) could do this with some two pairs, sets. I think this weighs up against the times villain has a higher flush.

I think this is a fold.

Bet turn bigger shove river.

Now id call

he's pretty shallow I'd call, against a reg this would be a fold though

he's pretty shallow I'd call, against a reg this would be a fold though

Please explain how villan being a reg would make this a fold.

I think this is a fold.

You're really folding here given the pot odds? I mean, yeah it's a fish min-raising the river, but I would think that there has to at least some spazz factor and some possible worse value hands (like KT/T8/AQ?) that make this a call getting 6.8-1.

I am never folding here against this guy because there is a tonne of worse hands he can have and he is short stack and posted blinds out of position. The only thing that beats you is a better flush. The A is on the board so if he has any kind of ace then he doesn't have a flush. I probably wouldn't fold here against a reg either unless they were a weak tight rock and my read was he would never do this without the absolute nuts. Straights, AK, AJ, AQ etc are all possible. Even a reg at 10NL at pokerstars may raise two pair or trips in this spot and definitely a straight. Against this fish I would actually shove for value if he has anything left.

Please explain how villan being a reg would make this a fold.

Well the thing is that when fish raises river to all in 1.5-2x over your bet he can have a ton worse hands. If villain was deep however or a REG, I doubt they would ever min-raise bluff river. Especially because this guy's stack is smaller than 2x hero's cbet he can be doing that with a TP and I am pretty sure he'd do it with any two pair or a set. 10NL reg would not be this shallow and would not be bluff-raising or 'value' raising without a flush

I would just call and chalk it up as variance. Fish do a lot of unpredictable things and if you think it is at all possible fish can raise river with sets/2p/straights then this is a mandatory call. You need to be good ~15% of the time for your call to breakeven. And there is always a spaz factor when it comes to fish.

I think this is a fold.

Thinking about it more I think this is incorrect because we are readless. But for that exact same reason I'd be making it bigger on turn and shipping river.

Agree with the above, you don't want to be in a spot where you have to bet/call where he's "never" bluffing. Setting up to shove the river is the best play. When you reach the river as you did you may even consider betting a lot smaller, at least then you can theoretically induce a variety of outcomes.

I don't understand why it is worst to bet/call than shoving? I mean he either has a better flush or he does it with straight/trips/2pairs. Even if he is never bluffing he can think he is value betting with worst than a flush.

when I bet the river he has 2 options
1. call/fold with worst
2. shove with better flush or something worst

when I shove the river he has 2 options
1. fold with worst
2. call the shove with better flush something worst.

I loose or win the same amount when we get it in, in option 2 or in the other case I can induce a light call when he has a piece of the board, but when he has to call all-in it is easier to fold something worst?

please tell me if my assumptions are wrong lol.

Making it bigger on the turn wouldn't change his calling range much at all, and it would make the pot bigger on the river so that you can shove without making an overbet. This should make it easier for him to call you on the river with worse hands and prevent shitty spots like this one where you get raised and he's not bluffing, but you sort of "have" to click call.

As above.

In short, he's way more likely to call with worse hands than raise with them even when the amount of money going into the final pot is the same.