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Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1726434
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SB: $26.21
BB: $52.00
UTG: $38.02
MP: $39.94
CO: $50.75
Hero (BTN): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 3 3
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.25) 7 J J (3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3, MP calls $3, CO folds

Turn: ($11.25) Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.25) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $5, Hero???

Final Pot: $11.25


CO 44/0 after 9 hands i have seen him coldcall a 3bet with A4s and x/call 3 way vs bet and raise and then called shove from initial bettor with fd

MP (Villain) 19/0 after 16 hands

did not really have a read yet but seemed to be passive.

what do you think about betting the flop


i would give Villain a range of medium pairs, draws and occasional slowplayed boats for x/calling this board texture 3 way.

i do not think i will get him to fold much of his flop range by betting the turn and i got close to 0% so i decide to check back turn and reevaluating river.

the only thing that seems to make really sense is some Qx hand that had a draw on the flop or something like stubborn AQ high with a back door draw or a slowplayed boat. but all draws missed. so call or fold?

I wouldn't mind calling if his bet was bigger but being so small it just looks like he's purely milking you with some kind of made hand he prob won't fold...so fold>raise>call

I wouldn't mind calling if his bet was bigger but being so small it just looks like he's purely milking you with some kind of made hand he prob won't fold...so fold>raise>call

i tend to agree about the betsizing if he was a reg. but he is very likely not a reg because of stats and stacksize. and i see this type of player using this size as a bluff. and i do not really like raising based on the fact his not a reg. because i think most of them can't value bet pretty thinly and are rather polarized for betting. and because i doubt he will fold anything he betted for value unless i shoved he may tankfold Qx but i doubt that.
so agree that folding might be best because he is unkown. but i think calling is way better than raising.

but not sure if i like betting the flop. because they are both not regs. they can call way more than a reg would in this spot and a lot of the time i will not be able to get to showdown
my reason for betting was because i thought i had the best hand a good amount of the time and would be able to take the pot down often enough. not sure that is a good reasoning for betting and if i will take it down often enough.

I think betting the flop is fine.

I really expect to see a bigger bet with missed draws from fish which is the only thing I consider calling vs. so I don't think calling is good because he has a made hand here almost always. If he is doing this as a bluff he is actually levelling you pretty hard, and I don't think fish are capable of such a thing too often.

If he snap bet pot I would be more likely to call since fish take that line with missed draws all the time, and there are a million missed draws.

I think betting the flop is fine.

I really expect to see a bigger bet with missed draws from fish which is the only thing I consider calling vs. so I don't think calling is good because he has a made hand here almost always. If he is doing this as a bluff he is actually levelling you pretty hard, and I don't think fish are capable of such a thing too often.

If he snap bet pot I would be more likely to call since fish take that line with missed draws all the time, and there are a million missed draws.

y agree if he snapbet pot it would be an easier decision because he would actually never do this with Qx. so he will be very polarized with a pretty small amount of value combos.
i am not sure whats their thought process when they bluff half pot. but i definitely see it a good amount of the time but that is very player specific. but i totally agree that this smaller betsize contains more hands that beat me combowise and not necessarily more bluffing combos.

I'm not sure if the bet size is the most important parameter without a read here.
I would just consider that he's passive and there are not so many draws in his range.

I'm happy with the stab on the flop but then I'm basically gving up vs an unknown. I put a Q/J firmly in his range. As he is passive it is not likely he would bet a Q being passive and we have no reason to believe he would stab with missed draws. Hard to interpret bet sizes without more info but I dont want to be the one to pay to find out.

Probably has a slowplayed monster imo

I'm not sure if the bet size is the most important parameter without a read here.
I would just consider that he's passive and there are not so many draws in his range.

i agree that there are not many draws in his percieved range but the same goes for made hands imo. but yeah i should not give a seemingly passive player too much credit for bluffing enough here.

Probably has a slowplayed monster imo

good guess