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kerwinty

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No real reads. don't know about not raising flop? Jamming turn? Folding when facing such strength from 2 opponents. Usually beat in this spot imo at this level. Had oop initial raiser bet smaller on turn, I probably jam, but thought sets and JT where in his range. Once I call the turn though, kinda committed 3rd jams so don't know if I am ever good. Or snap call?

Ongame Network $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1721265
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UTG: $19.42
Hero (CO): $9.90
BTN: $11.92
SB: $11.59
BB: $7.35

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 6 Diamond 6 Spade
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.35) Q Club K Diamond 6 Club (3 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1, BTN calls $1

Turn: ($4.35) 9 Diamond (3 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3, BTN raises to $10.52 all in, UTG raises to $18.02 all in, Hero folds

River: ($28.39) 3 Spade (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $28.39

Posted about 2 years ago

chuck651

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Raising flop here is mandatory imo. There are a ton of draws you could have and only 2 combos of sets assuming he thinks you 3bet QQ and KK.

I did the math and you need 18% equity to call the turn and I gave them both a range of AA,KK,QQ,KQ,KQs,JT,JTs, and Q9s. You have 24% equity vs. this range so easy call.

Posted about 2 years ago

tHeBoYmUsTdIe

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Good but tough fold imo.

Definitely raise the flop.

You can virtually take out AA/KK/QQ/KQ from the button's range, this is K9/Q9/99/JT(mostly)

When they both get it in 66 isn't looking too good.

Posted about 2 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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Raise flop because there are plenty of worse hands that will call. By not raising, you are missing value and allowing your opponents to see the turn for a smaller price.

Posted about 2 years ago

snarble5

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Like everyone else said, raise flop. When you get to the turn you should jam too.

Posted about 2 years ago

tHeBoYmUsTdIe

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snarble as played you think the turn is a close fold or you call?

Posted about 2 years ago

snarble5

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snarble as played you think the turn is a close fold or you call?



I think it's probably a close fold...our hand does too poorly against a range of straights, bigger sets, combo draws and KQ.

Board: Kd Qc 6c 9d

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 11.151% 11.15% 00.00% 370 0.00 { 6d6s }
Hand 1: 71.429% 67.84% 03.59% 2251 119.00 { JdTd, JhTh, JsTs }
Hand 2: 17.420% 13.83% 03.59% 459 119.00 { KK-QQ, 99, AcKc, AcJc, AdJd, AcTc, AdTd, KQs, KcJc, JTs, KQo }

If BTN is jamming K9s here, we can call but I don't think we can assume he flats those pre or jam turn.

Posted about 2 years ago

micsquab

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I have the same problem when I flop a set I automatically go into slow play mode and check call. Should be betting because people will sometimes pick more equity ott.

Posted about 2 years ago

kerwinty

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I was planning to jam turn if 9 didn't peel. Once opener jammed too felt like clear fold vs. both ranges.

Posted about 2 years ago

Grindcore

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The weird spot you got into is not important. Knowing whether you should call or fold in some rare spot will hardly have impact on your winrate and also require deeper understanding of poker. You made 2 fundamental mistakes here. You called on the flop, and you called on the turn. Fixing those will have a much bigger impact on your winrate.

Posted about 2 years ago

danspeedy1

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A raise on the flop here is a must. UTG leads out into two other players for a decent sized bet after opening pre so his hand strength looks strong, a lot of Kx,Qx with backdoor/flush draws. Raise the flop for value which has the side effect of protecting our hand against the many draws and making them make the mistake.

I wouldn't mind slowplaying here with reads that UTG c-bets his air a lot or spazzes out with TPGK and without BTN still in.

Posted about 2 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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The weird spot you got into is not important. Knowing whether you should call or fold in some rare spot will hardly have impact on your winrate and also require deeper understanding of poker. You made 2 fundamental mistakes here. You called on the flop, and you called on the turn. Fixing those will have a much bigger impact on your winrate.


+1

The good news about this tough spot is that improving your thinking on previous streets will prevent you from being in this position Smile

Posted about 2 years ago




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