Micro Stakes Online NL Poker Forums

If villain is any good, he shouldn't try bluffing an obvious two pair with the split K Kicker (or better)at 50NL. this should be pure value, so fold. Again, ratio of value vs bluff is much bigger.
But the whole set up of the hand looks like you called and he showed TT...

Playing 8-10 tables.

Well for the turn I figured to split with any Ax and I didnt give him credit to have too many clubdraws since as you mentioned Im holding the Ac and the Kc being out there. I wouldnt expect him to call preflop with JTs and QJs but he might do some small % of the time. So I call thinking that villain is most likely betting a Kx or 88-JJ, or AQ which is fine. I also think that if he got that unlikely club draw that he might check behind a second time, just for the free card and not risking a check/raise. .

For him to shove on a flush river didnt make much sense since he cant have a flush that often so villain is pretty polarized to nuts or air here in my opinion. 99 got there obviously but I think I will see hands mentioned above most often. I kinda exclude KK+ and AK 100% here, might be wrong doing that but Im sure he will 4bet pre just for value all the time.

Playing 8-10 tables.

Well for the turn I figured to split with any Ax and I didnt give him credit to have too many clubdraws since as you mentioned Im holding the Ac and the Kc being out there. I wouldnt expect him to call preflop with JTs and QJs but he might do some small % of the time. So I call thinking that villain is most likely betting a Kx or 88-JJ, or AQ which is fine. I also think that if he got that unlikely club draw that he might check behind a second time, just for the free card and not risking a check/raise. .

For him to shove on a flush river didnt make much sense since he cant have a flush that often so villain is pretty polarized to nuts or air here in my opinion. 99 got there obviously but I think I will see hands mentioned above most often. I kinda exclude KK+ and AK 100% here, might be wrong doing that but Im sure he will 4bet pre just for value all the time.

Yeahh, good thinking about nuts to air ratio, which will win a lot of money. The problem in this 3bet pot is that his air ratio is very limited due to his call 3bet pre. So it kind of evens out. That's what I mean.
Plus at 50NL it's pretty rare for someone to turn his TT into a 2street bluff. Obviously repping the flush doesn't make to much sense.
I also see a lot of players just flatting AA KK pre oop to c/r the flop, but both hands will just cback this particular flop 99%.
So imo both of his ranges are pretty narrow, but him having 55 99 KK AA and the onetime flush is overwaighting the bluffs. You only have to be good 1/3 so it's really thin imo. If you call information is gold though. By writting this, it becomes really close, but in the game, where time and thoughts are limited, I would rather muck those thin spots than call as a default at 50NL.

Obviously, if you don't agree of people slowplaying AA KK it's a call!

Yeahh, good thinking about nuts to air ratio, which will win a lot of money. The problem in this 3bet pot is that his air ratio is very limited due to his call 3bet pre. So it kind of evens out. That's what I mean.
Plus at 50NL it's pretty rare for someone to turn his TT into a 2street bluff. Obviously repping the flush doesn't make to much sense.
I also see a lot of players just flatting AA KK pre oop to c/r the flop, but both hands will just cback this particular flop 99%.
So imo both of his ranges are pretty narrow, but him having 55 99 KK AA and the onetime flush is overwaighting the bluffs. You only have to be good 1/3 so it's really thin imo. If you call information is gold though. By writting this, it becomes really close, but in the game, where time and thoughts are limited, I would rather muck those thin spots than call as a default at 50NL.

Obviously, if you don't agree of people slowplaying AA KK it's a call!

Im having a hard time giving him credit for slowplaying AK and KK+ vs a squeeze. Its different compared to if he opened BU, SB folds and I 3bet. The range you give him of 55 99 KK AA and occasional flush is a bit too strong for me likeing, I would only have 99 and occasional flush along with KQ, KJ 88-JJ. People do random, stupid stuff for no reason sometimes and I think this was one of them. Thanks for great inputs btw.

I was a member of a group form the very start and I have to admit that it is one of the best poker intiatives that I took part in. Also great way to learn poker! My goals for april are:

- 50k hands (optimal) 40k hands (minimum)
- and do this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/101/coaching-advice/systematic-training-drills-nlhe-1107105/

April 6h ended up -226$ and 4279 hands. Ran/played bad at nl50/30 so the day ended in red. Going to take the rest of the day of for some theory and social acitivites. Im currently at 17.232 hands played and 8.72 bb/100 so Im delighted with being on track for my goals, even if Ive run pretty hot this first week.

Quick update, almost 5k hands of 16nl completed running pretty good, although in my last session my aces were cracked twice. Think I'm doing quite well at adjusting to opponents and their ranges rather than just thinking about my hole cards. Trying not to do anything too crazy, which is one of my leaks, just peacefully grinding.

Up about 80 dollars at 9.93 BB/100, lots of fish making mistakes so its mainly table selecting well and waiting for them to make errors, playing as much as possible IP vs them. And either avoiding regs somewhat or picking on their weaknesses.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9397/april6th.png

Wont be playing much now for 2 days with easter. Also reading Mental Game of Poker, good so far, definately making me think about when I've run bad in the past and why sometimes poker can be very frustrating.

Interesting hand in last session

Villan is an unknown, probably an aggressive reg, only 10 hands but PT4 has written 2 notes, played draw aggressively and called 3bet IP A5s.

Happy to float with my overs and gutter, when I hit TP on the turn villan bets pretty huge, no doubt for value. Spidey sense says I'm behind here and I dont fancy a check raise. Probably a spot I wouldnt have folded a few months ago

Poker Stars $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1717735
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $16.00
BTN: $16.00
Hero (SB): $21.43
BB: $14.01
UTG: $16.38

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is SB with K Q
1 fold, CO raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.32, BB calls $0.24

Flop: ($1.20) J 4 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $0.88, Hero calls $0.88, BB folds

Turn: ($2.96) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero folds

Final Pot: $2.96
CO wins $2.83
(Rake: $0.13)

Check-raising the KQ is better than calling, especially since you have BB left to act behind you. But if you do decide to float you absolutely need to call that turn. It's such an attractive spot for Villain to barrel with Tx, flushdraws, or AK. I haven't played the micros in a long time but I can't imagine the games being so nitty at 16nl that we can't call that turn, especially since the bet isn't very big at all at just 2/3 pot.

I also don't like the call pf, but your table is probably not all that tough since it's 16nl so it can't bee too bad.

if he is an agro reg then I think it should be call on the turn, probably he is double barreling turned FD, JT, QT, 9T, TT, KJ, AJ from the hands that you beat and that is probably around 30%(maybe more) of his range

Ran some quick math to back my arguments up. As we see it's a clear call even if he never valuebets worse and only ever has nut flush draws, which are both kinda ridiculous assumptions. Given that he almost certainly bets QT and might even bet AJ sometimes it becomes a clear call. Another thing going for us is that we're probably not going to make many mistakes on the river because people triple barrel super rarely at the micros so we can pretty comfortably fold blanks without any further reads.

Board: J49 Q
       Equity     Win     Tie
CO     60.58%  56.64%   3.94% { JJ+, 99, 44, AQs+, ATs, KQs, KTs, QJs, T8s, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AQo+, ATo, KQo, KTo, QJo }
SB     39.42%  35.48%   3.94% { KcQs }

I don't think you should X/c flop if you are folding on improvement on the turn.

I don't think you should X/c flop if you are folding on improvement on the turn.

Yeah my plan was the x/r the flop or turn but I guess had a brain misfire and folded

Quick update, played well yesterday all though early in firt session made this horrible turn/river call vs unknown who I should have just given credit to. This was a throwback to mistakes I used to make. Probably alot of micro stakes players make these mistakes too often.

Villan was an unknown probable tag

Poker Stars $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1719162
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $21.40
BTN: $9.67
Hero (SB): $17.16
BB: $18.71
UTG: $36.93
MP: $18.06

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is SB with 8 8
UTG raises to $0.48, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.48, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.60) 4 4 J (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.28, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.28

Turn: ($4.16) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.92, Hero calls $1.92

River: ($8.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4.48, Hero calls $4.48

Final Pot: $16.96
Hero mucks 8 8
UTG shows A J (a full house, Fours full of Jacks)
UTG wins $16.20
(Rake: $0.76)

Despite that I'm doing well after 5500 hands 13 bb/100, going to mix in some 25nl tables too now if I continue to play well.

Quick update, played well yesterday all though early in firt session made this horrible turn/river call vs unknown who I should have just given credit to. This was a throwback to mistakes I used to make. Probably alot of micro stakes players make these mistakes too often.

Villan was an unknown probable tag

Poker Stars $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1719162
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $21.40
BTN: $9.67
Hero (SB): $17.16
BB: $18.71
UTG: $36.93
MP: $18.06

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is SB with 8 8
UTG raises to $0.48, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.48, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.60) 4 4 J (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.28, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.28

Turn: ($4.16) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.92, Hero calls $1.92

River: ($8.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4.48, Hero calls $4.48

Final Pot: $16.96
Hero mucks 8 8
UTG shows A J (a full house, Fours full of Jacks)
UTG wins $16.20
(Rake: $0.76)

Despite that I'm doing well after 5500 hands 13 bb/100, going to mix in some 25nl tables too now if I continue to play well.

Is calling flop standard for you here Mark?