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Gross spot vs loose unknown

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SavingForBenz

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Hero (UTG): $39.88
CO: $18.14
BTN: $16.86
SB: $28.95
BB: $19.13

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is UTG with A Club Q Club
Hero raises to $0.48, 3 folds, BB calls $0.32

Flop: ($1.04) 2 Club 3 Heart Q Diamond (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.74, BB raises to $2.72, Hero calls $1.98

Turn: ($6.48) A Heart (2 players)
BB bets $3.20, Hero calls $3.20

River: ($12.88) 3 Spade (2 players)
BB bets $7.04, Hero ???


Was put in a tough spot on every street.

Villain is 25/20 over 100 hands 0% 3bet. I would say on the looser side at these stakes.

Previously in a 4bet pot he had cbet 7 high board with AKo and got stacked vs a shorty. Thats the only hand I had seen him showdown.

OTF. I nearly folded here, but with TP and BDFD.

OTT - Unsure of whether this is a good card or not. If he was c/r OTF with a gut shot, A5/A4. But I'm still behind to sets and 45. His bet size confused me - 1/2 pot. I wasn't sure if this was KQ trying to get a cheap showdown? Seems strange.

OTR - 33 seem unlikely now. So that leaves just 22 that beats me. I had no idea what do. I'm sure Qx would have checked by now. So that leaves AQ, Ax(?), A4, A5, 23, A2, A3,22,33.

Is this range optimistic?

Posted about 1 year ago

Noobalube

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Yeah, this is an ugly spot. His sizing is terrible throughout like you said, but when he's repping such a small value range that you're behind of, it would be very difficult for me to find a fold here...especially in game.

When it comes to the river range you gave him, I'd say it's either going to be AQ, 22, 33 or possibly some random spazz that turned a naked FD like KHeartJHeart or JHeartTHeart? I mean 3barrel bluffing in this spot is pretty terrible, but only you know if villain is capable of it. If you think he is, then KHeartQHeart and QHeartT/JHeart is a possibility too. I really don't know if someone defends vs an UTG open with A2-5 and 32.

Again, with only 5 legit holdings that beat you (a 9 max if you think he defends with 54s) it would be really difficult for me to fold.

Posted about 1 year ago

shuttle

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unless you have some really good reason to assume that he is check raising air and 2barreling the air on Ax scarecards then give up with those on the river then you shouldn't be calling this turn and folding this river. This is because this river cuts down the number of set combinations and helps Ax hands that were previously bluffing to fire again. If you think that calling this river is unprofitable then you should probably be folding the turn.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8 games 0.000 secs 1,600 games/sec

Board: 2c 3h Qd Ah 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.250% 25.00% 06.25% 2 0.50 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 68.750% 62.50% 06.25% 5 0.50 { 33-22, AQs, A3s-A2s }


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Even vs this range you have enough equity so you need to be really really sure that he's never firing river with a hand like A2 here to consider folding.

Posted about 1 year ago

PokerNun

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He has a set here everytime. Why would he bet into a strong range on the turn when a scare card comes? Especially since it's a rainbow flop, he has a set. Sounds crazy, but I would fold the turn.

Posted about 1 year ago

SavingForBenz

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He has a set here everytime. Why would he bet into a strong range on the turn when a scare card comes? Especially since it's a rainbow flop, he has a set. Sounds crazy, but I would fold the turn.



Would you not expect him to bet a greater % of pot?

Posted about 1 year ago

Noobalube

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Would you not expect him to bet a greater % of pot?



That's why I said his sizing is terrible throughout. His turn bet sets up a pot sized shove on the river. Betting more would seem more appropriate so that he could shove the river and make it more likely to get a call. Combine that with the fact that he x/r's so large on the flop just makes this hand really fishy.

Like shuttle said, if you're going to call the turn, you need to call this river.

Posted about 1 year ago




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