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huntse

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Firstly I don't think you'll get where you want by thinking of the other players as idiots.

Secondly your bluff in hand 1 looks really fishy. I call with an overpair there when I'm playing well. That sizing looks like a top pair or worse. There's no way you bet that way with a straight and what straight can you really have?

Over bet jamming as big as you did in the second hand you maybe want to keep in reserve until you're happy that you can run more conventional bluffs successfully.

Finally, there are other factors that don't show up in a hh. Timing, game flow etc. maybe think about what goes through your mind when deciding whether to make a hero call.

Posted about 1 year ago

diiscostu

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For me villain played hand 1 fine, didn't like your call pre. Hand 2 was a bit fishy by villain however probably thought he was ahead before hitting K. I would have bet that flop with AK you were just unlucky he caught

Posted about 1 year ago

stl_jones

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I don't think of other players as idiots, just when I'm losing/tilted, when I'm the idiot, haha.

Posted about 1 year ago

matt9041

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i think the only time you should bluff at the micros is when your attacking a weak range or obv if you have reads.

Posted about 1 year ago

SnappieVouz

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would you make this kind of plays when not on tilt?
maybe thats your thing, maybe you should work a bit more on the mentality behind poker Smile

Posted about 1 year ago

AVC9-11

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I think villain called a little too light in hand 1 but I would be calling against most regs in hand 1 with JJ+.




In hand 1 maybe is better to call with 99 then with JJ.

Posted about 1 year ago

mrhobbeys

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After reading the other results and your response I think you do need to work on bet sizing. You might be blowing villains off of hands that you should get more value from and give them odds to "suck out" or correctly hero call or whatever leading to undersized winnings and too many loses.

Post some hands where you have decent equity and check out your bet sizes imo.

Posted about 1 year ago

joel

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i think the only time you should bluff at the micros is when your attacking a weak range or obv if you have reads.



Agree with this. In which case you don't need to make it huge (and thus give yourself a better price on your bluff). I'm starting to suspect anyway that at the micros a bigger bet doesn't necessarily equal more fold equity, because when you put a lot of money in the temptation to call increases...

Anyway, to return to the title of your post, "How do you know if they will fold?". There are at least two indices that correlate with fold equity:

1) Went-to-showdown percentage. I have this one on my HUD, but even if not on screen HEM has it in the pop-up stats. All things being equal, 30+ is high and 20- is very low. The higher the number the less inclined you should be to bluff, they will look you up. (Note however that this number does take a while to converge to anything reliable.)

2) Number of tables villain is playing. Usually, the fewer tables the less inclined you should be to bluff (again, all things being equal). A multi-tabler is usually playing pretty straightforward, ABC poker, meaning fold to river raises without a very strong hand, etc. Someone playing a single table is more likely to be a beginner, and much less likely to want to fold any kind of a hand -- after all, it takes a long time to make a hand in the first place!

On the whole, I rarely run big bluffs at the micros. I think it's a lot more profitable to play tight and just bet bet bet when you have a strong hand.

Posted about 1 year ago




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