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Hey fellas, so I would like to know your opinions on this spot.

UTG = 19/16 with (funnily enough) a rather high UTG PFR of 23% (26) over 221 hands
CO= 20/15 over 60 hand with a read (dunno if relevant)
raise pre w KJo from MP. cb TT4r and cx down once the K hits the turn.

MP: $10.10
CO: $10.00
BTN: $5.86
SB: $22.47
Hero (BB): $13.80
UTG: $10.17

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K Q
UTG raises to $0.35, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35, 2 folds, Hero Fold, 3b or flat?
I'm not that fond of flatting here, i'd much rather flat if we were suited, folding seems kinda dirty, but I might be overvaluing my hand vs and UTG open, and a tag caller.

Thoughts??

Assuming no 3 aggro 3betters in button/blinds just flat. Villan although appears a TAG on the surface probably has a loose UTG range, so SC, KT etc so HU would be ok.

However when CO calls squeezing becomes a viable option and depends upon more variables like fold to 3bet etc. Also ideally you would have more than just stats but some idea of how villan plays in 3bet pots, fit or fold? Aggro?

I agree with Mark. I like squeezing here if he folds to 3bets often. You have blockers and 2 high cards that play well in 3bet pots. Also, if he 4bets, you can easily fold.

for all reasons given above i say this:

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Quit using HUD stats over such small sample, they are meaningless unless they are extreme. A 23% open over 26 samples means he opened 6 hands. 26*.23=6 If he didn't get dealt one of his strong hands , he would now have only opened 5 hands for a 19% range. One more and he's down to 15%.

See how meaningless this stat is over 200 hands?

Folding here is super standard for me. How much money are you really going to make calling a raise OOP with an offsuit hand that is easily dominated by his range readless?

Good points mark, nice reply..

Absolutely awesomeness life nit, made me laugh for sure..

Solid point Jones, but I didn't include the UTG pfr stat as the main factor, just as a bonus info, but it does seem kinda silly when you put it up that way, I agree. I do feel that a 200 hand samplesize can be usefulk for other things though, but that's neither here nor there..

You really don't think that KQ can be played profitably postflop oop? And if so, wouldn't that make it more of a merrit for a sex here, to fold out AJ type hands, PP's and such?

You have to start thinking in terms of ranges how does KQo do against his range, so you would always call oop vs some loose passive fish with kqo but I would muck vs a 5/5 nit

Yeah for sure, and I wouldn't expect to ever be good vs a 5/5 nit, but vs a guy like this, I would assume that we are ahead of his pfr range sometimes, and if not, i expect him to be competent enough top fold out his weaker end of his range, that might still be ahead of us, like the weaker aces or PP's.
The reason that I say that I expect him, or at least asume to fold his hands that might be an equity favor vs our particular hand, is because afair I haven't seen him do anything out of line, and his stats look fairly reasonable imo

You really don't think that KQ can be played profitably postflop oop? And if so, wouldn't that make it more of a merrit for a sex here, to fold out AJ type hands, PP's and such?

Ah yes, the old sex-play. What sort of poker games are you playing in?


I agree that this is a 3-bet or fold spot though My question is do we want to have a 3 bet bluff range in this situation @ 10NL? If so, surely this is a perfect spot for it? A PFR capable of folding, blockers, highcard & EQ potential when called, dead money.

Ah yes, the old sex-play. What sort of poker games are you playing in?

HAHAHAHAHA, didn't even notice, was replying from my phone, and the auto correct changed it from sqz to sex , although a case can be made that a sqz is kinda sexy

Squeeze pretty much as a bluff imo. If UTG was a lot looser I might just flat since our hand plays better against a loose range than a tight one.

Honestly?

I'd just fold this pre. You're going to get a single cbet at BEST when OOP, and at worst, going to be dominated and paying villain off.

The key, I found, to crushing the micros was just to never pay off villains. If that means you playing slightly nitty OOP, so be it.

I mean, what hands are you going to get value from post flop when oop? KJs? QJs? Is villain even opening these hands UTG?

Just keep it easy and fold. You're just going to find yourself in tricky spots post flop; especially against good agressive villains. Are we ever comfortable in a large pot with KQo?

Good points mark, nice reply..

Absolutely awesomeness life nit, made me laugh for sure..

Solid point Jones, but I didn't include the UTG pfr stat as the main factor, just as a bonus info, but it does seem kinda silly when you put it up that way, I agree. I do feel that a 200 hand samplesize can be usefulk for other things though, but that's neither here nor there..

You really don't think that KQ can be played profitably postflop oop? And if so, wouldn't that make it more of a merrit for a sex here, to fold out AJ type hands, PP's and such?

I feel a little left out

squeeze or fold...move on

I feel a little left out

You know I appreciate your input I havent shared my poker blueprint with anyone else lol