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DC Shorts: Sthief09 (#9) - Facing 3Bets OOP

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DC Shorts: Sthief09 (#9) - Facing 3Bets OOP by sthief09

Sthief09 and deucescracked.com member, CDA, discuss some situations facing 3-bets out of position.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 26 minutes long
  • Posted over 1 year ago

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sthief09

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So you would just call here correct?
If im reading your HUD correctly you have 8k on this player, do i believe you have a idea of whar hands he is 3 betting here.
I was playing on a site that has a lot of Anonymous tables and i found myself on very awkward spots when i did call oop with this specific hands.
Lets say you call and the board come Q 7 J ( 2tone)and he auto bets . Would u be inclined to call here or raise his cbet?
Im my personal experience, and im a player who is constantly struggling to be agressive, because is not my nature, if i end up just calling 3 streets its almost like poker karma bites me and give him 2 random pair turn or river.
My question is: u said that when you 3 bet , i give him the chance to play perfectly. So on a Q high flop we call twice/give up to 3rd barrel, or we raise flop?
Same apllys to A on k high flops




yeah not a good spot. leading the flop is an interesting alternative on QJ7 two-tone. in general I'm not a huge fan of cc cc cc when (1) very few worse hands will value bet 3 times, and (2) it's not a spot villain will 3 barrel that often, unless he's got a hand with significant equity like AK+FD. on the other hand, I have a problem with just planning on calling off 50bb only to fold TPTK on the river getting 3-1.

whenever you're in a spot and think "this line is standard but wow nothing good is going to come out of it" it can be good to explore alternatives. I don't hate check-raising but I don't love it either. leading about 1/3-1/2 pot is interesting.

Posted about 1 year ago

cpau33

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First hand: AQ in bvb

If, for exemple, vilain has a 3bet % of like 15-20, you said that you would be more inclined to 4bet AQ because you have a lot of FE. So I guess you are 4bet/calling. Do you assume that he can be stacking off lighter than a normal player ? I mean, he can be 3betting like a monkey but just stack off with premium. It wouldnt be better to flat oop w/AQ and good hands since his 3bet range is very wide ? And since we have lots of FE when we 4bet, it wouldnt be better to 4bet him more as a bluff and fold when he 5bets ?

Posted about 1 year ago

sthief09

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First hand: AQ in bvb

If, for exemple, vilain has a 3bet % of like 15-20, you said that you would be more inclined to 4bet AQ because you have a lot of FE. So I guess you are 4bet/calling. Do you assume that he can be stacking off lighter than a normal player ? I mean, he can be 3betting like a monkey but just stack off with premium. It wouldnt be better to flat oop w/AQ and good hands since his 3bet range is very wide ? And since we have lots of FE when we 4bet, it wouldnt be better to 4bet him more as a bluff and fold when he 5bets ?




yeah, that's the assumption, that he won't 3-bet 15-20% and fold 80-85% of the time he doesn't have a premium. of course it's possible though. if he's going to fold 80% of his hands the first 2 times we do it before he adjusts and starts 3b/5b pocket pairs or worse unpaired hands, then I agree that 4-betting AQ is a waste.

Posted about 1 year ago

minimalist

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Check calling the river here seems like a good option to me. After you call 3bet oop, he checks thru flop, you bet turn +river what can he really call with here? His range for checking back flop, calling turn should be like AJ KJ JTs J9s TT 99 88 T9s 76s , maybe AK? Am I missing anything? What part of that range can we get value from betting turn + river (and sthief suggested betting pretty big on the river to be balanced with what we'd bluff size). It seems like any one pair hand must fold, so why not check so that he perhaps turns his hand into a bluff, realizing the river is a big draw completing card and that you must have some showdown value to have checked. So then he turns his weak one pairs and AK into bluffs perhaps?



Thanks for explaining yourself so well, this is pretty much exactly what I was thinking, and was pretty surprised when it was suggested we bet river (and that large to boot).

Posted 7 months ago




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