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mrhobbeys

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Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1659572
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UTG: $7.61
UTG+1: $2.52
MP1: $21.07
MP2: $5.08
CO: $4.00
BTN: $4.00
SB: $6.41
Hero (BB): $4.00

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB with A Diamond A Club
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.08, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, MP1 calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.32) 6 Heart K Spade J Club (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.72) Q Club (2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, MP1 raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($3.72) 8 Club (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $2.02, Hero ?

Posted about 2 years ago

Gizardpuke

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3bet more PF. just pot it for value.
pot the flop. not sure about the turn. if your calling the turn, then you kinda gotta call the river.

either b/f turn, or b/shove i feel.

Posted about 2 years ago

cam167

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I'm def folding the river here, I can't come up with a single hand that we beat, that would raise the turn, and what looks like a vbet on the river, that we beat.

Now im not a FR player, but I can def see some two pairs in his range given this board, Kx Club and straights.

As played I would 3b bigger pre, I like your size on the flop, we could potentially make it a bit migger, like 0.24, and actually also turn, we can def be beat here by two pair, but there are a ton of draws out there we can get value from.
Dunno if the turn is actually a fold though, like the min raise on the turn is usually more than top pair, and you potting it on this sort of board, looks like a strong made hand, that wants to get value from draws, (dunno how much he is thinking of this though)

But river is def a cx/f.
Actually I think the turn is a b/f, for the reasons I stated.

EDIT:
actually, given the Q is a club, and the Jack too, there's actually only KT left, and idk if he opens that, but still many two pair hands, in his range.

hmmmm, looking at it again, he would probably check back the river with two pair.
Well it all depends on how fishy he is, dunno if he valuebets two pair here, I just can't see him bluff with anything though, maybe we can include some lower SC's, like 67 - 9T of clubs (9T is obv the super nuts)

In the end, your hand is a bluff catcher, and I don't think we even beat his bluffs, since all the draws got there, and I don't assume he has pure air in this spot

Posted about 2 years ago

Gizardpuke

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depends on villians play style.
if he's loose, maybe not. they tend to take 2 pair as nuts no matter what. not sure about full ring as you mention.

any reads on villian?

Posted about 2 years ago

cam167

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Gizard, can you elaborate your thoughts on b/sh the turn?

What do you expect we beat?

Posted about 2 years ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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Problem I have with calling or shipping turn is that I cant really find any bluffcombos, only some unlikely AK that now goes for value but didnt 4b pre which seems pretty unlikely,

Posted about 2 years ago

Gizardpuke

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Gizard, can you elaborate your thoughts on b/sh the turn?

What do you expect we beat?




i said i was not sure about betting the turn at all. but if your going to bet the turn, and get raised we need to know what we're doing if it happens. just dont like a b/c there is all.

b/f is clearly the better way to go of course.

Posted about 2 years ago

B-rye88

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Given that we have blockers to everything that isn't two pair on this board, just bet/fold turn.

Posted about 2 years ago

zachd2323

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Given that we have blockers to everything that isn't two pair on this board, just bet/fold turn.



This. You also definitely need to 3b bigger pre.

Posted about 2 years ago

uselink

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3bet bigger preflop!
Bet like 85% PSB on the flop.

Bet the turn but a bit less like70%, since he will show his hand strength no matter what you bet.
(he will call with hands that you beat, and raise his turned 2pair etc)

Cant see him minraise the turn with AJ, think he would call always.

Just fold the turn, since you beat nothing here and he is never bluffing.

Posted about 2 years ago

mrhobbeys

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I actually made the call and won. He must have put me on a bluff or thought I would fold.

Posted about 2 years ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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wouldnt a bluff fold the turn?
(or in the case that it's a float (impliedoddscall or something) it probably hit a draw by now)
I guess he wasnt really thinking about your range there if you had him beat

Posted about 2 years ago

Noobalube

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I actually made the call and won. He must have put me on a bluff or thought I would fold.



Getting into a habit of calling rivers with just bluff catchers in the micros is a good way to stay in the micros. Typically this is a super easy fold on the river as people typically just never never never bluff enough.

I guess he wasnt really thinking about your range there if you had him beat



It's $4NL, I'd say <5% of people at this limit are thinking about ranges at all.

Posted about 2 years ago

mrhobbeys

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Actually a good point. I realized today I was calling way too many river bets in spots cause I was sure they were bluffing, but I'm working on that problem.

Posted about 2 years ago

cam167

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I actually made the call and won. He must have put me on a bluff or thought I would fold.


when you made that call, what did you expect to beat?

Posted about 2 years ago




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