Aside from the ub stuff, nice video, good to see your thoughts on find more spots for increased agression post flop
In episode 3 of Baby Steps, Tubasteve reviews his student and DC member Squishee in a prerecorded 2-table session of 50NL on Ultimate Bet. Steve discusses Squishee's leaks through Pokertracker analysis followed by live play.
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Aside from the ub stuff, nice video, good to see your thoughts on find more spots for increased agression post flop
4:45
You're right AF doesn't include checking. Only [betting + raising / calling] and it also does not include folding.
5:25
One thing I tell people who ask me for stats review advice is: "Improve your game and your stats will follow!"
This is basically what you are saying here. Don't try to get a certain stat to a certain percentage. Just think about the game and improve. Your stats will look good in the end.
8:45
does a slow progression of potsize not favor the player IN position instead of the playere OUT OF position? Bigger pot = less streets to bet = less power of position?
47:00
Isn't raising 33 for pure equity reasons already +EV? OK, just stoved it vs. 2 random hands and it's about 33/33/33. But nevertheless I would still raise this as you'll have a hard time building a pot to stack people when the potsize is 3BB instead of 9BB-11.5BB. There's still a chance to get it at least HU and a tiny little chance to just take down the blinds. I think raising is still best.
[funny: I stopped the video to write this, and when I continued watching, Squishee raised and took down the blinds)
this is not a promotion video, you guys are out of your mind
gonna watch it now
this is not a promotion video, you guys are out of your mind
gonna watch it now
meh. they make valid points...having UB videos on the site does implicitly show some sort of approval of the site, though very indirectly. i didn't even really consider all the UB scandal stuff before making the video, and i certainly don't play there myself (although the games are mighty good from what i hear and from what you see in the video)
I like raising more than limping with 33 there unless the blinds were really crazy or complete stations. Also the sample size isn't huge and I think hero still has good fold equity against villains despite their stats.
About the discussion regarding betsizing when isolating a weak limper:
There exists a concept saying you should raise bigger if u isolate an early limper, to discourage the blinds from squeezing/coming along and to make sure you are really ISOLATING the limper.
Imo thats the way to go regarding to this topic, isolating smallish is very exploitable in my experience.
I never understood the scams that went on at UB, and AP...can someone show facts on the corruption of these sites?
I never understood the scams that went on at UB, and AP...can someone show facts on the corruption of these sites?
on 2p2 pokercast cpl of weeks ago they had an interview of guy who runs UB now and he admitted there was a previous employee that had server side program that enabled his account to see hole cards of all players.
He was able to do 8 high call downs and stuff in tournaments.
Hi, great video.
I have a question about stats. I play 40BB stacks at 0,25-0,50$ NL fullring games.
My stats are something like 20%VPIP and 11%PFR. You say that PFR should be only about 3 points lower than VPIP. So I’m supposed to rise less than optimal pre-flop. But what about my stack? I limp TT-22 instead of open-raising (even in late position) because I could not stand a 3bet with my short stack. So I better limp to see a cheap flop and/or call a 4x or 5x raise. Does that justify my VPIP-PFR gap? Is a 20%VPIP too high for a short stack strategy?
Than you.
2DePicas
Hi, great video.
I have a question about stats. I play 40BB stacks at 0,25-0,50$ NL fullring games.
My stats are something like 20%VPIP and 11%PFR. You say that PFR should be only about 3 points lower than VPIP. So I’m supposed to rise less than optimal pre-flop. But what about my stack? I limp TT-22 instead of open-raising (even in late position) because I could not stand a 3bet with my short stack. So I better limp to see a cheap flop and/or call a 4x or 5x raise. Does that justify my VPIP-PFR gap? Is a 20%VPIP too high for a short stack strategy?
Than you.
2DePicas
im pretty sure folding TT to a 3-bet with a 40-bb stack is incredibly exploitable. honestly i have no idea how to play a 40bb stack and none of the videos offer specific advice for that stack size.
also if youre just limp/calling and trying to get paid off when you flop sets, it might be easy to get AI b/c of stacks but thats generally just a weak losing play.
and damn son if youre playing over 20% vpip at FR thats considered pretty bad according to nolan, because i was gonna try to make a lag FR vid and they were saying optimal stats are pretty nitty.
im pretty sure folding TT to a 3-bet with a 40-bb stack is incredibly exploitable. honestly i have no idea how to play a 40bb stack and none of the videos offer specific advice for that stack size.
also if youre just limp/calling and trying to get paid off when you flop sets, it might be easy to get AI b/c of stacks but thats generally just a weak losing play.
and damn son if youre playing over 20% vpip at FR thats considered pretty bad according to nolan, because i was gonna try to make a lag FR vid and they were saying optimal stats are pretty nitty.
Thank you for the replay, Tubasteve.
mmm...
0,25-0,50$ should be loose games, but I usually play against 5 or 6 tap, a couple of semi-loose-passive and maybe a fish (FullTilt). It's very unusual to see someone with more than 3%3B and when u are reraised u are facing kings or aces most of the time. With most of these regulars u could fold queens with no problems (I don't do that and QQ, JJ are my less profitable pairs by large). Thats why I limp-call pairs TT-22 (I really wonder including JJ). I get the odds to cach trips and my shortstack gets payed more often.
I agree that 20%VPIP (21,4 actually) sounds too loose, but I don't know how to reduce it. I don`t play broadways and sconn (no multiway pots out there). I even fold AJo, ATs in early. I suppose that VPIP comes because of my 39%Steal and completing SB every time I can. Some loose limps in the button too, when the blinds are passive and I'm stealing too much.
Over 14000 hands at that limit I'm getting 4,8 bb/100. Is it low? Should I really find out how to reduce VPIP or increase PFR?
Thank you again.
2DePicas
the statements youre making about the FTP 50NL player pool are just almost all incorrect. i dont really know how else to put it than that. people consistently 3-bet much wider ranges than just AA/KK....and if you don't believe that then you just are running really bad or arent paying attention or something.
the statements youre making about the FTP 50NL player pool are just almost all incorrect. i dont really know how else to put it than that. people consistently 3-bet much wider ranges than just AA/KK....and if you don't believe that then you just are running really bad or arent paying attention or something.
Well, I suppose U are right. Of course U know quite more than me about that. Maybe its a matter of number of hands. I still dont have good skills with holdem manager, but I have spent some time looking for 3/4 bet situations preflop (of corse all-in since I'm shortstacked) and I find out more or less what I told before:
All-in preflop with:
1 time AA (Vs. KK)
2 times KK (Vs. AA and KK)
5 times QQ (Vs. 2 KK, AKs and 2 folds)
1 time JJ (Vs. KK)
9 times AKo (Vs. AA, KK, QQ, 3 AKo, KJs, A8s and 1 fold)
2 Times AKS (Vs. AKs and AKo)
1 Time AQo (Vs. KK)
2 Times AJo (Vs. AKo and AJo)
1 Time KQs (Vs. JJ)
This on 13.989 hands. That tells me people does not go all-in preflop against me too much, but when they do, I'm on trouble. I dont feel confident 3/4 betting with TT against that range of hands I am facing. Only 3 folds and one A8s!!!! Any other hand would have been a flip or big dog situation for my TT.
Its true that I found higher 3B% than I thought on my stats, but not much more. Only 239 players out of 884 (with more than 60 hands history) had more than 4%3B. Over 60% had less than 2%3B.
I suppose the problem is that my database is too short, but I think that 13.400 hands can give at least a decent betting pattern.
Any way, I'm here to learn. So I'll follow your advice, and start pushing more my JJ and TT and 3betting more often against steals. I'll keep an eye on the stats and see if it works out.
Thank you very much.
2DePicas
Am I the only one who really didn't like this? There's so much rambling (at time it sounds like TubaSteve is just brainstorming, despite having watched it 2-3 times before) and apparently zero editing....
BTW, anyone who is interested in the UB+AP scandal, I recommend the pokercast stream from 2+2 for updates!
Around 25 minutes into the video you say you are going to edit out a bit...guess you forgot...besides for the UB part and that decent video
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