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DC Shorts: Sthief09 (#3) - HH Review with KongSo

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DC Shorts: Sthief09 (#3) - HH Review with KongSo by sthief09

Sthief09 and KongSo talk over three 6-max NLHE hands played on PokerStars.

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  • 40 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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zachd2323

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Time Link to 00:03:48

At what pair do you think it becomes a call instead of a 3bet or fold? Like 77?

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zachd2323

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My first instinct was to want to raise this flop as well. But thinking more about it, I just worry that we don't really rep anything if he can hand read at all. Are you just assuming that these villains aren't going to be able to hand read well at all? It really seems like we would more than likely just be calling down with all of our made hands.

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zachd2323

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Yeah, I think the problem in these spots for me is that sometimes I just talk myself into making a call by trying to find a few hands that I can beat, instead of looking at an entire range. My initial thought is to fold, but it's always a lot harder to make a big fold than to call.

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sthief09

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At what pair do you think it becomes a call instead of a 3bet or fold? Like 77?




66 is probably on the borderline. in So Fresh So Clean episode 8 I broke down 77 by types of flops we hit. You can just download the spreadsheet without watching the video. I think it's worth checking out.

Anyway, I'm not entirely convinced we shouldn't often call in a spot like that, but there in particular he's facing a 3.5x open, iirc he said no fish in the blinds and he doesn't have the button so that spot happens to be significantly worse than average. Typically, there are enough ways to win the pot in position and it's a nice hand to have if there's a loose squeezer in the blinds, so I don't mind calling with it.

I have a lot of hands over a long period of time but last I checked, I've done quite well with small and medium pairs flatting preflop.

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sthief09

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My first instinct was to want to raise this flop as well. But thinking more about it, I just worry that we don't really rep anything if he can hand read at all. Are you just assuming that these villains aren't going to be able to hand read well at all? It really seems like we would more than likely just be calling down with all of our made hands.




I definitely have a weak range when I raise there, but a strong case can be made for raising (and in this spot a raise is committing) 55, 77, 65, and 76.

[TANGENT] Fundamentally, raising the above hands is bad. all better hands call, all worse hands fold. usually this is bad poker. however, if villain has any aggression in him he will probably auto fire A-Q, maybe J and T turns. even if we call on those cards we are not a favorite vs. his range (reverse implied odds). if he only bets the turn with a better hand, obviously we can fold. if he's doing it anywhere close to balanced it's a brutal spot on the turn.

conversely, if the card is good for us when holding 55, 77, 65, and 76 it will be a bad barrel card for villain. we have minimal implied odds on our straight/2pr/set outs.

put this all together and I think it's better to be raising the flop with these hands against all but either the most straightforward (always fold turn) or insanely aggro (never fold turn) opponents. Paddy and I did a Pokerazor sim in Playbook that showed something similar. sometimes it's best to end the hand early despite fundamentals pointing to the contrary. the smaller the SPR, the more true all this gets. /tangent

so anyway, if we raise A7 and some of those other made hands, then he shouldn't call with any A-high. if he's weak tight or misinterprets the raise he may even fold pairs with A4 and such, on occasion.

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zachd2323

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You can just download the spreadsheet without watching the video. I think it's worth checking out.



Cool. I'll definitely check out the video and spreadsheet. Thanks for taking all the time to post on forums lately.

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