Grindcore
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Grindcore, is 4 tabling your standard? You make and act on some great reads.
You should not play over 4 tables if your current goal in poker is to improve and move up. If your goal is making money, improving and moving up has a higher EV long term, so if you're trying to earn some cash for your holiday next month go ahead and grind the way your hourly is highest, but usually it's most +EV to have improving as goal and thus you should not play more than 4 tables. 95% of players ignores this advice and 95% of players ends up being the stereotype close to break even rakeback grinding tagfishes that my entire style evolved around 
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Grindcore
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Hey Grindcore, really like your videos, always full of great information and advice that helps improve my game. On the top right table with the OESD straight draw, what's your plan on the turn if he calls you? Are we barreling here on flush cards and bricks alike? Thanks
Check back. He clearly has something and probably won't fold turn. Donkbets tend to not be 2nd pair type hands. If I had a read that he donk's draws (something that might fold turn that donks flops), I wouldn't be raising flop in the first place.
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Grindcore
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On the top right table are you shoving with the JJ if villain 4bets you?
Obviously. I had been super aggressive against him. Unless you were thinking of flatting the 4b instead of folding to it... JJ is too vulnerable to flat, though I might flat AA or KK. But he could be 4b-calling with AQ 88 etc and by flatting vs those I'll often end up not stacking them so shoving is still very good.
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SnappieVouz
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You should not play over 4 tables if your current goal in poker is to improve and move up. If your goal is making money, improving and moving up has a higher EV long term, so if you're trying to earn some cash for your holiday next month go ahead and grind the way your hourly is highest, but usually it's most +EV to have improving as goal and thus you should not play more than 4 tables. 95% of players ignores this advice and 95% of players ends up being the stereotype close to break even rakeback grinding tagfishes that my entire style evolved around 
Interesting. I play 6, maybe I am becoming a rakeback grinding tag fish but I am studying hard enough.
My idea is that some extra rakeback + some extra expierence during play time is a good thing. There might not be that much a difference between 4 and 6 tables but to me 4 tables are kind of slow, a little bit too slow
In the end, you didn't answer the question
. Do you play 4 tables yourself or do you play more?
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Grindcore
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great video again, but it would be great to see you play against better regs and I'd also like a video review instead of live play.
there are so many interesting hands you don't really comment on enough imo, or you just play them while taking notes and don't say anything about it.
and it would be nice to get deeper into your thought process, which is not possible while live play.
This series will go from NL50 to NL400. I can't help it that the regs at NL50 aren't better
just be patient for the rest of the series if you want to see better regs. Also, if you play 40+ VPIP, every hand becomes a spot, so obviously there's lots to talk about. I have 45-60 minutes at my disposal, so I try to fill it with as much stuff as possible. I can 2 table and not miss anything, but there will be more dead stretches. 6 tabling is way too much and I timerfold all over the place and have to cut myself short in the middle of explanations. 4 seems optimal. The viewer will learn more from a video where the instructor gets in 15 spots and discusses 12, than from one where he gets in 10 spots and discusses 10. Also, you can ask me about any hand I didn't talk about in the comments. I've done both 2 tabling (so every hand gets discussed) and post video commentary (so I can pause), and live 4 tabling yielded the best results and least "complaints", so I'll stick to that.
If you really want to pick my brain and deeply analyze hands, I'll be announcing group coaching soon 
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Grindcore
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What would you be your play if he called your c/r on TOP LEFT?
c/f. I c/r because it looks very strong, so when they don't fold they obviously have a very strong hand. I'm not folding out huge draws or made hands that call the flop on a brick turn. If the flush hits on the turn I'm in a tricky spot. KQ+ probably doesn't call my flop c/r, and a drawless made hand weaker than KQ probably folds when the flush hits. I could bet and c/f river to let him call once more with 1pair+turned FD, or just c/f turn as villains at these stakes will be less likely to turn their hands into bluffs. When turn goes x/x on a flush card I'll valuebet river like half pot and c/f on 4th flush card.
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Grindcore
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Though this looks for me like a spot where you should in general keep your range wide and to get Value from hands like TT-KK.
B/c you would cbet here usually your entire airrange, you keep your range here obv. wide by betting -> I just think that you will get here much easier 1 street of value from 2ndpairs than later in the hand after checked back such a flop.
But I could easily be beat, and they're also more likely to c/f here with 2nd pairs because it's 3way and I'm the 3bettor. I'm looking to play my hand for 1 bet here, and it'll be easier to achieve that by delaying the bet to the river or to induce a bluff from CO who could have suited connecters etc and thinking he can bluff putting us both on 2nd pairs.
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TheBeardofZEUS
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On table 1 you call down the turn and river with J9 on AT49K and say that after the flop gets checked through villain can't suddenly be barreling two streets with much so he has air or the nuts essentially here. I agree once we get to the river that the call is good, but the turn call in itself against two players OOP on the turn doesn't seem good to me.
I feel like against their combined ranges you are going to lose this hand a lot since either player can have Tx, some better 9x, a hand like JJ or QQ some of the time, though usually those would get 3 bet, andall kinds of straight draws and spades with a K or Q. The only great card on the river for you is a 9 and you probably have more Reverse implied odds on a J than implied odds since Tx or worse will not be paying off to a bet on the river and will be checking back if checked to. Of course you do have the equity of them bluffing their missed draws, but is that enough of a reason for you to call the turn here?
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You should not play over 4 tables if your current goal in poker is to improve and move up. If your goal is making money, improving and moving up has a higher EV long term, so if you're trying to earn some cash for your holiday next month go ahead and grind the way your hourly is highest, but usually it's most +EV to have improving as goal and thus you should not play more than 4 tables. 95% of players ignores this advice and 95% of players ends up being the stereotype close to break even rakeback grinding tagfishes that my entire style evolved around 
awesome advice. thanks grindcore.
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SnappieVouz
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awesome advice. thanks grindcore.
yeah, i changed it from 6 back to 4. I need to learn to listen to people better then me in the things I want to achieve 
it should be a bit more rakeback with 6 tables, but whatever, it's probably on a few dollars at the stakes I play anyway (25nl)
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HighOctane
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You should not play over 4 tables if your current goal in poker is to improve and move up. If your goal is making money, improving and moving up has a higher EV long term, so if you're trying to earn some cash for your holiday next month go ahead and grind the way your hourly is highest, but usually it's most +EV to have improving as goal and thus you should not play more than 4 tables. 95% of players ignores this advice and 95% of players ends up being the stereotype close to break even rakeback grinding tagfishes that my entire style evolved around 
Thanks Grindcore. I used to play 6 and I have noticed that since cutting it to 4 about 2 moths ago, I am much more observant and take notes and develop plans vs specific players, etc. moving beyond mere hud stats. It really made a difference when deciding how thin I can value bet, bluff and bluff catch.
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