thnx man.Your posts always help me clear my doubts.
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thnx man.Your posts always help me clear my doubts.
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Hi Grindcore,
do you really think Cbetting here is good with AQs? You are OOP, you don't know how much he will call etc. Most of time fishes are callingstations obv. I think with most of his range he will continue on this board, something like 80%. (gutshots,BDFD+overcards, pairs etc).
Your plan is to double barrel a lot or? I think only when you 2barrel a lot of cards (value from draws) and c/f river, cbetting is good here. But you dont know if he barrels a lot on river when you chk to him, so you have to look first, if you think hes an aggressive player, and think about if he will bet river when you check to him with missed draws? Because only then you can barrel lot of turns to get value again out of draws EV+.
Hi Grindcore,
do you really think Cbetting here is good with AQs? You are OOP, you don't know how much he will call etc. Most of time fishes are callingstations obv. I think with most of his range he will continue on this board, something like 80%. (gutshots,BDFD+overcards, pairs etc).
Your plan is to double barrel a lot or? I think only when you 2barrel a lot of cards (value from draws) and c/f river, cbetting is good here. But you dont know if he barrels a lot on river when you chk to him, so you have to look first, if you think hes an aggressive player, and think about if he will bet river when you check to him with missed draws? Because only then you can barrel lot of turns to get value again out of draws EV+.
3.5 into 5 only needs ~41% folds. Yes he'll hit this board with something more often but he still only has to fold a minority of the time. And that's the amount of folds we need if we instantly lose the hand when he doesn't fold, which is obviously not the case. If I check and he bets I can't really call and then I don't get to realize any of my equity, I can bluff him more credibly, etc. The board is also only 8 high so there will be a lot of profitable 2/3 barreling spots as his calling range can very infrequently play a big pot without improving. All that taken into account I need way less than 41% folds.
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AJo Table 2: would you call a 3barrel here? On one side it weakens his range because he don't 3barrel all his Kx, but on the other side people on 50nl doesnt 3barrel bluf that much I think. But all the draws miss, so I would prefer the call for information + I think we are enough times right, you?
AJo Table 2: would you call a 3barrel here? On one side it weakens his range because he don't 3barrel all his Kx, but on the other side people on 50nl doesnt 3barrel bluf that much I think. But all the draws miss, so I would prefer the call for information + I think we are enough times right, you?
He probably expects me to fold my 77 hands etc on the turn a good % of the time, so I probably have a king quite often there in his eyes. Also the 5 pairing is not a good bluffing card, and all draws missed. I think this is a bit too spewy of a spot to call. Also it's NL50 and people do random things. He could be 3barrel bluffing with the best hand or something. Though I am a big fan of herocalling for info early on in sessions so if you think it's close you should definitely call light, I just don't think this particular spot is close enough for it. There's a very similar hand later in this series where I do get 3barreled and call (though it wasn't for info
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@table 4 A7o
do you isoraise here a really large range because it's a fish and try to win the pot with a cheap cbet or double or tripple barrel good barrel cards?
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JJ table 2: against this type of player, pbb a fish with his not 100bb stack, im comfortable to c/c one street. But I feel like when I play against regulars/unks nowadays (100bb stack) then C/F is the best option because when you c/c once, your hand is pretty face up. If somebody c/c vs me on flop I 3barrel a lot for this reasons, and other players are doing that also now a lot I think. (I play 50nl)
(offcourse when I have this read vs someone I start c/c a lot with my middle pair hands, but without reads it's difficult)
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A7o table 3: I 3betted here also last couple months with A7o but when you get called you always flop bad, So I started 3betting only with hand with equity OOP. IP its a good hand because you dont get called that much and you have blockers.
~my range here: pbb also 3betting Q6s etc, for dont letting him play with the fish ofc. but still postflop playability:
A9s-A2s,KTs-K9s,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54s,43s,32s
Or do you think that isnt that necessairly and 3betting here with A7o is fine, because you dont let him play with the fish, you have a blocker and you barrel a lot on dry flops? I have a really hard time with knowing when to barrel and when not to barrel when I get called. So barreling when having equity is obv easier. But I think when you only barrel with equity that isnt also good. Because when he calls I think he has a lot of TT,JJ and AQ so you barrel a lot of dry flops to get him fold that hands. And when you see him calling light down than you adjust. Your thoughts ?
@table 4 A7o
do you isoraise here a really large range because it's a fish and try to win the pot with a cheap cbet or double or tripple barrel good barrel cards?
Yes. Or just hit a flop. There's nothing wrong with playing tight and just folding though. As long as you don't complete ![]()
JJ table 2: against this type of player, pbb a fish with his not 100bb stack, im comfortable to c/c one street. But I feel like when I play against regulars/unks nowadays (100bb stack) then C/F is the best option because when you c/c once, your hand is pretty face up. If somebody c/c vs me on flop I 3barrel a lot for this reasons, and other players are doing that also now a lot I think. (I play 50nl)
(offcourse when I have this read vs someone I start c/c a lot with my middle pair hands, but without reads it's difficult)
It depends on how the average reg plays in the games you're playing. If they're always 3barreling then maybe you should triple check call JJ here as most people don't fire the 3rd barrel with hands like A5 as they expect you to fold all worse hands.
A7o table 3: I 3betted here also last couple months with A7o but when you get called you always flop bad, So I started 3betting only with hand with equity OOP. IP its a good hand because you dont get called that much and you have blockers.
~my range here: pbb also 3betting Q6s etc, for dont letting him play with the fish ofc. but still postflop playability:
A9s-A2s,KTs-K9s,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54s,43s,32s
Or do you think that isnt that necessairly and 3betting here with A7o is fine, because you dont let him play with the fish, you have a blocker and you barrel a lot on dry flops? I have a really hard time with knowing when to barrel and when not to barrel when I get called. So barreling when having equity is obv easier. But I think when you only barrel with equity that isnt also good. Because when he calls I think he has a lot of TT,JJ and AQ so you barrel a lot of dry flops to get him fold that hands. And when you see him calling light down than you adjust. Your thoughts ?
You're not making your money when you get called. You're making your money when he folds. Ax has a good blocker so it's more likely he folds to A7o than to 65s. The hands you're suggesting to 3b with are actually good hands to just flat with and keep the fish in and play 3way. If you 3b and you get called, your default play should be to check-fold. Don't even bother cbetting unless you're sure it's +EV.
You're not making your money when you get called. You're making your money when he folds. Ax has a good blocker so it's more likely he folds to A7o than to 65s. The hands you're suggesting to 3b with are actually good hands to just flat with and keep the fish in and play 3way. If you 3b and you get called, your default play should be to check-fold. Don't even bother cbetting unless you're sure it's +EV.
okay thanks, but what if the fish was a regular and opened 4bb, UTG+1 called, do you now prefer 3betsqueezing the hands I mentioned like 56s,J9s,T8s,97s or Axo? When you get called you can fire a lot more now with draws.
And my 2nd question on this: when you 3betsqueeze here and get called do you only want to fire with equity or do you also want to 3barrel a board like K32r | 7 | 8 with QJs (hand doesnt really matter) because I think their callingrange will be a lot of AQ,TT,JJ,99 (some AK) which you can let him fold on a tripple barrel, except AK offcourse. So I think I can be sure that this is an +EV 3barrel
It all depends on your opponent. If you think his range is 99+/AQ+ with KK+/AK discounted, then 3barreling is good if he calls twice with QQ- but folds to the third. If he already folds QQ on the turn you should probably give up on the river.
Opinions on whether to 3b suited connectors or big card hands differ. Do what you think makes most sense.
9:30 Table 4. 67o
If you try get him off Jx then Q and K are also good card to bluff, right?
35:47 Table 1 QTo
Is 10bb 3bet on SB ur std against 2.5x open? Same for BB?
Great video, could've been less timeouts...
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