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The Thin Red Grind: Episode One

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The Thin Red Grind: Episode One by Grindcore

Grindcore begins his new series at 50NL and goes into the concept of hand reading ability preflop.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 56 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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Grindcore

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What would be your action on the flop if Villain would have checked here on the flop?
Just stab b/c he will often give up with OCs which have decent EQ vs. you?
btw.,
would you have make this pseudo-thin Valuebet on the River also vs. a thinking REG of a higher limit?

One additional question on the KK-hand (Min. 35):
Do you think it is a shame to fold on the turn even readless?
I mean the fish_line "Call Flop - Minr. Turn" has imo rly most of the time (just on average experiences) a onepairhand beat, imo.



Depends on how much higher. At NL100 or 200 probably yes. At 400+ regs are trickier on the river and could still be going for a c/r, especially if they know I'm aggro on the river. At 400+ 3betting is also more rampant and getting a red on their 3b ranges is important so the value of a showdown goes up. And they're also more likely to have been 3b bluffing with A9 K9 Q9 or so that could c/c here.

I review the KK hand at the end of the video.

Posted over 2 years ago

Ass Get to Jigglin

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Yes, perhaps even especially on dry boards as he's less likely to get raised there.



right, but his value would be a lot thinner on a dry board since there are no draws to get value from, no?

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Depends on how much higher. At NL100 or 200 probably yes. At 400+ regs are trickier on the river and could still be going for a c/r, especially if they know I'm aggro on the river. At 400+ 3betting is also more rampant and getting a red on their 3b ranges is important so the value of a showdown goes up. And they're also more likely to have been 3b bluffing with A9 K9 Q9 or so that could c/c here.

I review the KK hand at the end of the video.




Super thank you, for all your answersWink

Shortly coming back to the 88-hand.
Would you have stabbed on the flop if he would have not cbet the flop for my mentioned reasons in my previous post?

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Grindcore

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right, but his value would be a lot thinner on a dry board since there are no draws to get value from, no?



You're seeking too much reasoning behind his play. He's simply a player that barrels medium pairs, and that's it. I strongly doubt his 2barrel with a medium pair was board/image/whatever specific, since he was readless on me and it wasn't a good spot to do it the first time around. Fish also don't limp pre because of the table dynamic or something, they just limp because they want to see a flop. And this guy just bets because he has a pair.

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Grindcore

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Super thank you, for all your answersWink

Shortly coming back to the 88-hand.
Would you have stabbed on the flop if he would have not cbet the flop for my mentioned reasons in my previous post?



Hands with equity against me are very likely to cbet the flop, so I would not be betting for protection as I'll simply run into his bluffcatchers which are higher in number than his equity-air hands. However, I'd probably 3barrel to get him to fold his likely 2nd pair. Readless he's unlikely to call me down.

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ooohhh anoying noises



Grincore reproduced the video without the annoying sounds, it is now posted in mp4 and wmv formats. Enjoy.
-Rusty

Posted over 2 years ago

apv2009

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Time Link to 00:02:40

He might call pre with AA and KK (standard against a villain with a polarize 3 betting range), and follow the turn shoving line.

To me this seems perfectly possible. Am I wrong?

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Grindcore

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He might call pre with AA and KK (standard against a villain with a polarize 3 betting range), and follow the turn shoving line.

To me this seems perfectly possible. Am I wrong?



Why would you shove the turn though? The entire point of flatting premiums vs a polarized range is to keep the air in his range. Same logic goes for the turn. Why not call and hope he shoves river? The hands that call you if you jam turn will valueshove themselves on the river anyway.

But yeah it's possible he does. Which is the point I'm making in the intro. It's hard to know exactly what's going on at microstakes, so you beat it by playing fundamentally sound and getting strong hands to showdown.

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apv2009

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Why would you shove the turn though? The entire point of flatting premiums vs a polarized range is to keep the air in his range. Same logic goes for the turn. Why not call and hope he shoves river? The hands that call you if you jam turn will valueshove themselves on the river anyway.

But yeah it's possible he does. Which is the point I'm making in the intro. It's hard to know exactly what's going on at microstakes, so you beat it by playing fundamentally sound and getting strong hands to showdown.



ok ty, nice stuff there.

Posted over 2 years ago

glove78

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I was about to cancel my DC sub but, because of this series, I won't cancel anytime soon. Kind of lame how excited I am for this. /grindcorefanboy

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Grindcore

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I was about to cancel my DC sub but, because of this series, I won't cancel anytime soon. Kind of lame how excited I am for this. /grindcorefanboy



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ca all day

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Time Link to 00:43:17

on table 1 with the kjs why are we betting the turn here? i mean i know we have more equity b/c of the heart, but what hands do we really expect villian to fold on the turn here. should we take the free card? isn't this kinda spewy to bet the turn here? what do we do if we don't get bailed out on the river?

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Grindcore

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on table 1 with the kjs why are we betting the turn here? i mean i know we have more equity b/c of the heart, but what hands do we really expect villian to fold on the turn here. should we take the free card? isn't this kinda spewy to bet the turn here? what do we do if we don't get bailed out on the river?



You're right, I was talking about a different hand so kinda just clicked a button there. A check is significantly better.

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ca all day

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thanks for the quick reply i appreciate it. I just heard ur deuce plays podcast. i'm only playing 4 tables now.

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