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Turning the Corner: Episode Five

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Turning the Corner: Episode Five by sthief09

Sthief09 reviews part two of a long session he played, focusing on getting maximum value on his good hands, as well a broad range of topics from blind defense to playing in 3-bet pots.

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Josh's highly-anticipated small-stakes No Limit guide. With all the widely available information on the internet, games are tougher than ever. This trickles all the way down to the small stakes and even micro-limit games. If you're not constantly improving, thousands of players who are will pass you right by, and as a result it's no longer good enough to be merely competent. Sthief09 moves from 50NL to 200NL, teaching you solid fundamentals, and showing you when it's correct to deviate from tight, straightfoward strategy. Whether you're a new player who wants to beat the small stakes games, or you're a veteran looking to increase your winrate and move up, this series will help you turn the corner on your poker game.

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  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 51 minutes long
  • Posted about 5 years ago

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Echelon

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results of AQ hand around 23:00? villain folded to river shove?

Posted about 5 years ago

sthief09

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results of AQ hand around 23:00? villain folded to river shove?



yeah that got cut out somehow, but he did fold. my stack goes up, so that shows that I didn't edit out me getting owned or anything.

Posted about 5 years ago

stoaf88

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Great series Josh, I like your videos the best so far. I love the way you teach and play. Great job.

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caderousse

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This has become one of my favorite series on the site. Nice job yet again.

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johnnyson

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mh works fine until like 35minute mark or so, then jumps back to 0 in the flash version, meh time to dl it.

Posted about 5 years ago

nomdeguerre

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This series, along with "Memoirs of a Limidonk" have been the most instructive videos for me personally of all those I've watched. Really great instruction and in-depth explanation of every hand. Top notch Josh, please make more.

Posted about 5 years ago

yeahgoforit

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Yeah, keep up with the 4table format. Great!

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Squishee

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chomp

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Another excellent episode. Really insightful commentary. Keep em coming.

One suggestion - in this format, it would be useful to identify the tables 1,2,3,4 just to make it a bit easier to follow.

A quick question about the 88 hand at table 2 about 42 minutes in. You say "if there aren't many river cards that you are happy to bet again for value, you shouldn't put in a bet on the turn". Could you say another word about this because I don't quite get what you mean? In this hand, it looks to me like there are loads of river cards that make another river vb difficult - any card that completes one of the 2 FDs or completes a weird Str8/2pair or any overcard. None of those would make us overjoyed to vb our 88.

Thanks.

Posted about 5 years ago

gring000h

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nice vids yo!

couple of Q’s: what would be your default line on the last hand with the p7 on the K72 board, assuming villain would do a standard cbet? if you would c/raise, would you min raise?

with the three way ttp AT hand vs the set of 8’s on the A high flop (33 mins in), had you cbet and btn had raised, would you dump your hand on the flop? would you call to peel the turn and fold to further resistance?

for the same hand: if you had cbet the flop and only button had called, what would your plan for the rest of the hand be? would you bet any turn or would you check for pot control, if so would you c/c twice if villain would bet bricks for 2/3 pot? had you been only 100bb deep, would you be more inclined to bet any turn?

thanks!

Posted about 5 years ago

sthief09

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Another excellent episode. Really insightful commentary. Keep em coming.

One suggestion - in this format, it would be useful to identify the tables 1,2,3,4 just to make it a bit easier to follow.

A quick question about the 88 hand at table 2 about 42 minutes in. You say "if there aren't many river cards that you are happy to bet again for value, you shouldn't put in a bet on the turn". Could you say another word about this because I don't quite get what you mean? In this hand, it looks to me like there are loads of river cards that make another river vb difficult - any card that completes one of the 2 FDs or completes a weird Str8/2pair or any overcard. None of those would make us overjoyed to vb our 88.

Thanks.




unfortunately all the videos are made so the 1,2,3,4 thing won't happen. that seems to be a popular critique so it's something I'll 100% do in the future. sorry about the next few thought.

regarding the 88 hand, I was going against my typical rule of not firing the turn for value, if I can't value bet the turn. In that situation I felt that he had so many outs against me that there was value in betting the turn.

but take a more general case. if you bet the turn, you get to protect your hand as well as set yourself up to bet the river. say you have QJ on a Q83 flop against a pretty loose and aggressive opponent. you c-bet and he calls out of position. the turn is a K. you still likely have the best hand, but should you bet? the upside is you can protect your hand from hands like 98 or AJ that have some outs. a minor upside is if the river is a J or Q, you'll be able to make a bigger bet.

but the downside is big. if he's smart, he'll recognize that you're often using the K as a second barrel card and turn something like 99 into a bluff/bluff-stopper by check-raising. since he's loose and aggressive, if you check the turn, he'll often bluff the river with Ax, or be more likely to call a bet with 98 or 66. by betting the turn, and typically chasing those hands away, you forego your opportunity to make money on the river. if we get called on the turn, the pot will be big, and any value bet would be very thin. finally, betting is simply building a big pot with a hand that clearly should not and will not feel comfortable in a big pot.

so this would be a clear turn check. but if we had AK, we'd bet. for one, it's more likely for him to have a Q when we don't, but also it's a hand that we're comfortable firing again on the river after he calls the turn. this is the big difference between the 2 situations. we're still chasing those hands like 98 away most of the time, but occasionally he makes a suspicious calldown and we win 2 more bets from that 98, and the times that he has QJ, we make an extra pretty huge bet.

Posted about 5 years ago

sthief09

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nice vids yo!

couple of Q’s: what would be your default line on the last hand with the p7 on the K72 board, assuming villain would do a standard cbet? if you would c/raise, would you min raise?

with the three way ttp AT hand vs the set of 8’s on the A high flop (33 mins in), had you cbet and btn had raised, would you dump your hand on the flop? would you call to peel the turn and fold to further resistance?

for the same hand: if you had cbet the flop and only button had called, what would your plan for the rest of the hand be? would you bet any turn or would you check for pot control, if so would you c/c twice if villain would bet bricks for 2/3 pot? had you been only 100bb deep, would you be more inclined to bet any turn?

thanks!




I think I probably should've just bet the flop. I always find myself in a bad situation when I do it, and if you saw episode 4, you saw that guy blindly call down with KT after doing the same. unless you understand how your opponent think, it's typically not a good idea to make your hand obvious.

so let's say I bet and button called. I had 102 hands on him (thanks for giving me the time) so all I can really determine is that he's a tag. I would typically check the turn at that point and call one bet. some players will bet with their Ax, and most will bet their 8x or flush draws. and once I call, I'm signaling that I have an ace, and I think most people will give up trying to bluff by that point. I'd play this the same with 100 or 200 bb stacks, because the hand is really only strong enough to be a bluffcatcher with anything 100+ bb.

Posted about 5 years ago

sthief09

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unfortunately all the videos are made so the 1,2,3,4 thing won't happen. that seems to be a popular critique so it's something I'll 100% do in the future. sorry about the next few thought.

regarding the 88 hand, I was going against my typical rule of not firing the turn for value, if I can't value bet the turn. In that situation I felt that he had so many outs against me that there was value in betting the turn.

but take a more general case. if you bet the turn, you get to protect your hand as well as set yourself up to bet the river. say you have QJ on a Q83 flop against a pretty loose and aggressive opponent. you c-bet and he calls out of position. the turn is a K. you still likely have the best hand, but should you bet? the upside is you can protect your hand from hands like 98 or AJ that have some outs. a minor upside is if the river is a J or Q, you'll be able to make a bigger bet.

but the downside is big. if he's smart, he'll recognize that you're often using the K as a second barrel card and turn something like 99 into a bluff/bluff-stopper by check-raising. since he's loose and aggressive, if you check the turn, he'll often bluff the river with Ax, or be more likely to call a bet with 98 or 66. by betting the turn, and typically chasing those hands away, you forego your opportunity to make money on the river. if we get called on the turn, the pot will be big, and any value bet would be very thin. finally, betting is simply building a big pot with a hand that clearly should not and will not feel comfortable in a big pot.

so this would be a clear turn check. but if we had AK, we'd bet. for one, it's more likely for him to have a Q when we don't, but also it's a hand that we're comfortable firing again on the river after he calls the turn. this is the big difference between the 2 situations. we're still chasing those hands like 98 away most of the time, but occasionally he makes a suspicious calldown and we win 2 more bets from that 98, and the times that he has QJ, we make an extra pretty huge bet.



sorry you also asked what if he raises, and I ran out of time editing the other post.

If he raises, with these stacks I just fold. It's going to make him EXTREMELY likely to fire on the turn, knowing that I'm going to have to seriously consider folding even AK on a board like this, where so many big hands are possible. so I'm going to be folding to a lot of his raises. this is obviously exploitable, and if he starts raising a lot of our c-bets, then we'll adjust by either playing back at him, or possibly leaving since a deep-stacked opponent who uses his position on you is a huge detriment.

Posted about 5 years ago

chomp

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Josh, thanks for reply.

Just been re-watching this series, and it's actually even better than I originally thought. There is SO much content in 3,4 and 5 that I expect to watch them 3 or 4 times each to make sure I take it all in. Outstanding. 5 stars.

Posted about 5 years ago




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