Tony39
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Really enjoyed this - would like to see some more in this format, perhaps with some villain stats.
At 39min, you cbet the J64 flop and turn is a blank 2. Although you changed your decision, you said that the turn didn't help him and you expected him to fold a lot to a barrel. On such a dry board when he isn't drawing, he has likely called with some sort of made hand, so wouldn't he often call again because the turn changed nothing?
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StnBuddha70
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reprisal
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Not sure how to do those fancy time links...but @23:30 or so.
You say this a really great flop to c-bet, but in a multiway pot I'd very rarely c-bet air on this type of board. So many hands have a FD or a pair+gutter that I expect one of them to continue quite often but its not a board where we can barrel them off those hands either. Someone who limp/calls may even peel any ace...altho Any Two hadnt shown us he was that terrible.
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improva
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Really enjoyed this - would like to see some more in this format, perhaps with some villain stats.
At 39min, you cbet the J64 flop and turn is a blank 2. Although you changed your decision, you said that the turn didn't help him and you expected him to fold a lot to a barrel. On such a dry board when he isn't drawing, he has likely called with some sort of made hand, so wouldn't he often call again because the turn changed nothing?
Very good question!
Maybe you can see that this actually is a leveling war?
How would we play are strong made hand?
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improva
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Not sure how to do those fancy time links...but @23:30 or so.
You say this a really great flop to c-bet, but in a multiway pot I'd very rarely c-bet air on this type of board. So many hands have a FD or a pair+gutter that I expect one of them to continue quite often but its not a board where we can barrel them off those hands either. Someone who limp/calls may even peel any ace...altho Any Two hadnt shown us he was that terrible.
Hm.. I would really like to answer your question but I'm not sure what it is...
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reprisal
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Hm.. I would really like to answer your question but I'm not sure what it is...
I guess I'm just second guessing either my or your analysis a bit? Thought the video was quite good but that 1 hand didnt make much sense to me. So I'm wondering if there is a consideration I'm missing.
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Tony39
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Maybe you can see that this actually is a leveling war?
How would we play are strong made hand?[/quote]
Thanks for your reply, yes we would clearly continue with a strong made hand. I guess that these are the spots where I am torn between firing a second / third barrel, and I'm not always sure of my logic in making these decisions.
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improva
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I guess I'm just second guessing either my or your analysis a bit? Thought the video was quite good but that 1 hand didnt make much sense to me. So I'm wondering if there is a consideration I'm missing.
I'm not concerned about the limper. His range is really wide and almost never has a hand here.
StnBuddha has a lot of pocket pairs in his range and they are all folding.
The c-bet only needs to work ~ 40% of the time.
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reprisal
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I'm not concerned about the limper. His range is really wide and almost never has a hand here.
StnBuddha has a lot of pocket pairs in his range and they are all folding.
The c-bet only needs to work ~ 40% of the time.
Definitely good points, thanks.
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Really, really liked this one. It's nice to be forced to focus on the other elements of a situation and not our hand at all.
21:00 JJ9dd flop, you chose to barrel Turn. Earlier, the flop was something like 973 9, and you did choose to barrel. If this was due to board texture, is the opponent's range really THAT much narrower in the former to make barreling bad but good in the 2nd situation?
Just 2nd barreling only may be -EV, but do you think 2nd barreling the JJ9dd, x board would be +EV if you did so with the intention of firing a 3rd barrel on a blank river? The 2nd barrel would effectively be to fold out a few weak hands and build the pot vs draws to take down on whiffed Rivers. It seems like a lone J would raise this texture a some point (except J9), so if he c/c's the Turn, we can weight his range more to just a couple monsters (99/J9), SD's, FD's, and marginal hands (9x etc) and win with a bet on the end as we have strongly represented a J.
Or is this often just spewy?
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