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starpowah

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Okay, I've been taking badbeats and been outdrawn all day long ...
Could someone please tell me, did I play these two hands correctly?

Villain is very loose and passive. He tends to call down to river always. I knew he played suited aces, and weak aces. So I tried to value bet every street.

Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 901955
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Hero (MP): $2.07
CO: $2.19
BTN: $1.05
SB: $2.41
BB: $0.70
UTG: $1.34

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with T Spade A Heart
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.09, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.21) Q Club A Diamond 4 Heart (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.08, UTG calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.37) 2 Heart (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

River: ($0.77) 3 Heart (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

Final Pot: $1.37
Hero shows T Spade A Heart (a pair of Aces)
UTG shows 3 Diamond 5 Club (a straight, Five high)
UTG wins $1.28
(Rake: $0.09)

Next hand, the villain is kind a crazy. Saw him 3bet with AQ before and he is pretty bad.

Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 901957
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BB: $2.79
UTG: $2.15
Hero (MP): $2.07
CO: $1.46
BTN: $2.11
SB: $2.20

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with K Spade K Club
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.21, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.45) 4 Heart 4 Diamond 3 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.28, Hero raises to $0.63, BTN raises to $1.90 all in, Hero calls $1.23 all in

Turn: ($4.17) A Club (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($4.17) 6 Diamond (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $4.17
Hero shows K Spade K Club (two pair, Kings and Fours)
BTN shows Q Spade A Spade (two pair, Aces and Fours)
BTN wins $3.90
(Rake: $0.27)

Would be great to get some feedback, dropped some buy ins to day ...

Posted over 1 year ago

infire

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Hand 1: Bet bigger flop and turn, consider checking back the river if opponent is not a complete calling station (but he is, apparently), but I like the betsize versus the hands you're trying to get to call..

Hand 2: Standard, if you decide not to 4b pre. I'd probably 4b pre.

Sorry you're running bad.

Posted over 1 year ago

SCS

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Hand 1 - What's with the bet size on the flop? Rest looks ok.

Hand 2 - I would just 4 bet/get it in preflop. Hand is fine as played.

Posted over 1 year ago

DetroitMojo

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Hand #1: 3/4 pot bet on flop, perhaps chk behind river.
Hand #2: Good play.

Posted over 1 year ago

starpowah

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Hand 1 - What's with the bet size on the flop? Rest looks ok.

Hand 2 - I would just 4 bet/get it in preflop. Hand is fine as played.



I had been betting hard all the time on this table and thought for one time, I would get this callingstation to make a big error to call me down on all streets with his weak ace ... But he held 35o

Posted over 1 year ago

SCS

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I had been betting hard all the time on this table and thought for one time, I would get this callingstation to make a big error to call me down on all streets with his weak ace ... But he held 35o



Yeah, if he's a calling station, why are you betting so small? You think he's folding most of his range if you bet closer to pot?

Posted over 1 year ago

starpowah

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Yeah, if he's a calling station, why are you betting so small? You think he's folding most of his range if you bet closer to pot?



Maybe. I don't know. I woulda folded a weak ace against two barrels if they were betted around the pot.

Posted over 1 year ago

SCS

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Maybe. I don't know. I woulda folded a weak ace against two barrels if they were betted around the pot.



But would villain fold?

Posted over 1 year ago

trickybob

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Generally you are bet sizing too small in a lot of spots. Loose passive will call because it's in their nature to chase gut shots etc, so start betting bigger. Hand 1 you bet 40%-50% on every street - make it 60%-80% as your standard, but against these guys make it 80% on flop and a bit more on turn bets. If they have something they don't fold. Max value!
PF on Hand 2, always 4bet KK, try to get it in PF. I don't like the check on the flop either - he's loose passive, he's supposed to check with AK, AQ and then he gets the free card and ...Try and get it in PF with KK.

Posted over 1 year ago

stanmore

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I would have lost more on hand 1... Smile

What the hell do you do about a guy who limp/calls 35o UTG, flops a gutshot... calls your C-bet (which was obv too small but he probs didn't even care about that) turns the nuts and proceeds to C/C two streets...

Baffling. But you MUST charge him to call that flop with his crappy gutshot. He'll miss it so often and you can scoop it up on the turn when he checks again... OBV the way he played it you'll have no way to tell the difference between the times he's missed and the times he has the nuts... c'est la vie.



No need to post hand 2 at all IMO... if you can always get it in this good... you'll be fine.

Posted over 1 year ago

starpowah

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Thanks for the replies.

No, I just started to think more about my game so I felt I need to post the KK hand so I coul be told if I do it right or not.

Posted over 1 year ago

stanmore

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suiteddeuce

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Generally you are bet sizing too small in a lot of spots. Loose passive will call because it's in their nature to chase gut shots etc, so start betting bigger. Hand 1 you bet 40%-50% on every street - make it 60%-80% as your standard, but against these guys make it 80% on flop and a bit more on turn bets. If they have something they don't fold. Max value!
PF on Hand 2, always 4bet KK, try to get it in PF. I don't like the check on the flop either - he's loose passive, he's supposed to check with AK, AQ and then he gets the free card and ...Try and get it in PF with KK.



This...

What the hell do you do about a guy who limp/calls 35o UTG, flops a gutshot... calls your C-bet (which was obv too small but he probs didn't even care about that) turns the nuts and proceeds to C/C two streets...

Baffling. But you MUST charge him to call that flop with his crappy gutshot. He'll miss it so often and you can scoop it up on the turn when he checks again... OBV the way he played it you'll have no way to tell the difference between the times he's missed and the times he has the nuts... c'est la vie.



and this.

EDIT* Sorry, don't really like doing "This" posts but I feel like they wrapped it up pretty well. There's nothing you can do but charge villain in hand one to catch his draw and in hand 2 it's hard to get your money in good after the flop if you don't hit a king or are against a bluffing station.

Posted over 1 year ago




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