1BYONE
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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 138107
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SB: $26.53
BB: $61.74
UTG: $38.62
MP: $21.02
CO: $19.70
Hero (BTN): $96.65
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q
Q 
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, 1 fold, BB raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $22.75, BB raises to $61.74 all in, Hero folds
Final Pot: $46.75
BB wins $46.75
(Rake: $0.00)
Villain is VPIP 22 / PR 17 / 3Bet 11 / Sz 0 / Sample 175h
He is a nitty player and does not make any fancy stuff
I assume i took the right decision to fold pre because I am probably against AAs, KKs or AKs. He also snap moved all in. Btw i did not want to flip a $60 coin preflop.
What do you think?
Thank you 
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hopscotch
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1BYONE
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I recommend becoming a degenerate gambler so you like to do it.
I am not playing a tournament Hopscotch so i will not shove pre with my QQs. I know i am beat. If I start to gamble like that many times I will have big swing in my roll especially with QQs. I only gamble when I think i am in the best position to do it otherwise I lay down my hand.
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tubasteve
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I am not playing a tournament Hopscotch so i will not shove pre with my QQs. I know i am beat. If I start to gamble like that many times I will have big swing in my roll especially with QQs. I only gamble when I think i am in the best position to do it otherwise I lay down my hand.
the problem is even if you think his range is AA/KK/AK, you have to call due to pot odds. so thinking "i wont take a coinflip" is really bad logic, in fact you are losing money if you fold here in the long run.
additionally if you think your opponent will only shove with such a tight range, why are you 4-betting him preflop? almost no one will just flatcall when you have put so many chips in the pot, so 4-bet/folding QQ here turns your hand into a total bluff.
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1BYONE
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Sugar Nut
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Wow,
I strongly believe I butchered preflop in the QQ hand I posted a minute ago but this hand exceeds my level of horribad
(no offence dude, we all suck sometimes)
Seriously: DO NOT 4bet QQ (and especially not to a committing amount) if you don't plan to stack off. I mean I'm sure you knew before you 4bet that...
He is a nitty player and does not make any fancy stuff
So you can't really expect him to CALL your 4bet with worse hands. He's pretty much 100% shipping or folding (calling would be "fancy stuff")
You've just successfully turned QQ into 72o
EDIT: shoulda read Steve's reply before posting, as he pretty much says the same as I do. Sorry for repetition.
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ThatDeviant
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4bet folding QQ is horrible, man.
As played, get it in, the guy is far from a nit looking at his stats.
I'd also flat against this guy as his 3betting range is wide against a BTN isolate and you'd like to play vs his whole range and not just the top of it.
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Langerz
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Villain is VPIP 22 / PR 17 / 3Bet 11 / Sz 0 / Sample 175h
He is a nitty player and does not make any fancy stuff
I assume i took the right decision to fold pre because I am probably against AAs, KKs or AKs.
I agree with the analysis here. I'd flat but if you are 4 betting you definitely have to get it in.
One other question/potential leak given the quote above. If this guy is nitty, what are your stats? Those stats probably look like a lot like the people posting in this thread and I wouldn't call us nits. (of and my range here is more than AA, KK, AKs)
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ThatDeviant
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