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What Would Joe Tall Do?: Episode Seven

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What Would Joe Tall Do?: Episode Seven by Joe Tall, jk3a

Welcome to the quiz show that tells the tale of What WOuld Joe Tall Do. This weeks episode covers 3 bet situations and has jk3a as a special guest.

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Grand prize winner of the DC Invent-A-Series Contest. This interactive series tests your practical knowledge of Small Stakes No Limit Hold'em. Every other week Joe Tall will post a quiz asking about various hand situations that come up in the game, then on the following week he posts answers in the form of a video with one other DC coach. Prizes will be awarded for those getting the highest scores each week and the highest overall score at the end of the series. Look for quizzes in the Small Stakes forum.

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  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 64 minutes long
  • Posted about 4 years ago

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WRAPPEDInPLASTiC

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Joe Tall

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2. bet $2ish 1
3. bet $6 2pts, bluff some rivers....A/K would be decent cards...3 barreling brick can be good here too - THROWN OUT
4. put him all in 1
5. don't fold Smile, don't limp 1
6. check 1pts, bet 1,(assuming check)bet turn if checked too, call if he bets 1
7. check 1pts, bet 5 1 pt with intention of showing down unimproved if you bet....snapcalling river if you check, maybe value bet 1
8. Raise to $10/$12 2pts
9. 4bet to 15 1pt(obv call shove), flat call 1pt ( get allin on good flops) 1
10. call 2pts, fold 1pt, 3bet 1pt....3betting ok to isolate 37/7, folding not unreasonable given MP open and we're oop 2
11. Bet 10 with intention of betting turn alot - THROWN OUT
12. raise to 2.5ish 1
13. c/f 1
14. call 1pts, raise 1pt, if raise should bluff some rivers 1
15. raise to 8ish 2
16. 2.50 por favor, 1pt 1
17. 3.5ish 1pt 1
18. 2.5 or 1.5 1
19. raises to 2.5, 1
20. Bet $2 1
21. folds pot odds imo 2
22, get all in if he wants 1
23. call 2pts, a touch risky to 3bet without better reads 2
24. close spot, wish MP was deeper. 2pts for folding 1pt calling 2
25. check 1
26. make it $2 1
27. 6-7, value/protection, checking sucks 1

Posted about 4 years ago

Triplethink

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ASpade9Spade hand

Do you think the tilted lag is call/folding a $4 bet (flop $8.75 and he has $2.55 left)?

What is the plan if one of the blinds shoves and the lag calls?

Posted about 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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Results: http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=n9Qj38bk6spTpd4VLaxKqy1esb9frVKuypjmg85uUd4_3d

I'm off to Vegas for the weekend. I will have the Quiz scored and back up early next week. Right now I have to keep it locked, sorry.

Posted about 4 years ago

Medar

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7. check 1pts, bet 5 1 pt with intention of showing down unimproved if you bet....snapcalling river if you check, maybe value bet 1


There were couple of check options right? Which ones got points?

15. raise to 8ish 2


37:22. No points for shipping it in? jk3a said in the video it's real close. I personally think short stacks like that pretty much always call their stack off with any pair in spot like this, there is so much money on the table compared to their stack they just say fuck it and call. So his calling range probably doesn't change too much if we ship and we get more value.

8. Raise to $10/$12 2pts


17:28. This was kind of awkward. I would bet like $14-15. The bet $10 option seems to miss value, don't see him folding more if you bet little more. I like $18 more than $10 since it gets more value, there is very slight change that leaving so little to his stack might induce a shove from weird hand, but against this opponent it seems very unlikely. So I don't see anything wrong with bet $18 and fold to a shove, even if the odds are great.

Posted about 4 years ago

WRAPPEDInPLASTiC

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ASpade9Spade hand

Do you think the tilted lag is call/folding a $4 bet (flop $8.75 and he has $2.55 left)?

What is the plan if one of the blinds shoves and the lag calls?



this. why not make a normal raise which will have the exact same result and also save us $ if someone behind us wakes up with a hand?

Posted about 4 years ago

jk3a

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this. why not make a normal raise which will have the exact same result and also save us $ if someone behind us wakes up with a hand?



it doesn't cost much more to make a bit bigger raise and it increases our chance of getting it hu.

Posted about 4 years ago

rocketragz

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sweet jk3a.. anxious to watch this one.

Posted about 4 years ago

newdevil

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hand 17: KSpade9Club on 243r flop: i still don't see why we should cbet the flop? The only better hands which would fold to a cbet are KQ-KT.
Should we cbet just to take it down on the flop (don't let him draw to 6 outs?) and avoid getting bluffed on later streets?
What if he c/r semi-bluffs with a hand like 76, then we must fold the better hand?

Posted about 4 years ago

Ncoa

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As Medar for hand 15.

I to think that it is MUCH better to ship it in or raise some amount that covers him (maybe less scary)....very likely more +EV! I really think you should give some points to us who chose to ship it in...I mean, it can NEVER be wrong and likely more +EV!

For hand 17
If we cbet, no hand that we're already beating is going to fold, except perhaps KQ-KT, so if we cbet I think it should be for barreling later but we're not very interested in barreling a donk, right?
And is it really good enough to value bet?

Posted about 4 years ago

pkrlvr

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37:22. No points for shipping it in? jk3a said in the video it's real close. I personally think short stacks like that pretty much always call their stack off with any pair in spot like this, there is so much money on the table compared to their stack they just say fuck it and call. So his calling range probably doesn't change too much if we ship and we get more value.



I agree. Why leave $4 behind, thats a cup of coffee as Joe likes to say.


17:28. This was kind of awkward. I would bet like $14-15. The bet $10 option seems to miss value, don't see him folding more if you bet little more. I like $18 more than $10 since it gets more value, there is very slight change that leaving so little to his stack might induce a shove from weird hand, but against this opponent it seems very unlikely. So I don't see anything wrong with bet $18 and fold to a shove, even if the odds are great.



Agree here as well, I mean if we're going to raise for value lets get some value.

On the QQ hand where we're in the CO and BTN 3bets us. His range should in theory be widest in this spot(maybe BvB might be wider) so very few of his hands are going to be able to continue. I think TAGs at the micros in general have very narrow/non-existant 4bet calling ranges and very tight 5betting ranges(QQ+/AK occasionally JJ), you'll never see a hand like AJ or TT if we 4bet. The only downside is that we're OOP but I think that is compensated for by our hand strength. I would want a read that this guy is going to continue with worse hands before I 4bet.

Posted about 4 years ago

jk3a

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As Medar for hand 15.

I to think that it is MUCH better to ship it in or raise some amount that covers him (maybe less scary)....very likely more +EV! I really think you should give some points to us who chose to ship it in...I mean, it can NEVER be wrong and likely more +EV!

For hand 17
If we cbet, no hand that we're already beating is going to fold, except perhaps KQ-KT, so if we cbet I think it should be for barreling later but we're not very interested in barreling a donk, right?
And is it really good enough to value bet?



Like I said, shipping is not unreasonable. I would have no problems if Joe wanted to give a point for that.

The K9 hand, you guys saw that he limp/called T8o and you're trying to argue that cbetting is not profitable?

Posted about 4 years ago

newdevil

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The K9 hand, you guys saw that he limp/called T8o and you're trying to argue that cbetting is not profitable?



I don't think cbet flop ist not profitable. I just think check behind is more profitable than betting.

Posted about 4 years ago

jk3a

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I don't think cbet flop ist not profitable. I just think check behind is more profitable than betting.



With all due respect, how exactly is that possible?

Posted about 4 years ago




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