auswalk
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joethepro
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i only see a value bet here.
you played it tricky by checking the flop so he doesn't really put you on the ten.
if you're gonna call his all in after you value raise, then you might as well push all in on the river. to him that over bet reraise could be a bluff or a strange AQ. whatever the case, he calls you with any ten (which is what he's repping). if he's bad, he could even call you with AQ or KQ. if you think he has something like pocket JJ or some mid pair, he's actually equally likely to call a 2-3x raise or an all in. he's either defensivebetting/fold with those hands or not believing you.
i like a shove here. your check on the flop and bet on the turn really disguises it + he might have a T + he might be bad and think your overbet reraise is good enough to call with a queen.
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I like to check Top pair on occasion to remain unpredictable.
I do not think it is a good idea to give a free card when your top pair is a T. There are just too many overcards that can hurt you, also in the hand you posted there are possible flush and straight draws.
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joethepro
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i don't mind the check too much as there are no flush draws and only a few str draws. however it would have been better if it was a jack and not a ten pair. as it is, there are 3 overcards that you will be scared of.
and yes, your ace kicker made you pretty much a sure bet, it was just how to extract the most money out of him and i believe all in would be best. good chance he had JT suited? a common hand that calls raises and agrees with how he played the hand.
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auswalk
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i think by playing it this way you must value raise and fold to a shove. I'd raise to $10. He's not putting you on a T because you checked flop. I think if you check the flop, you have to raise riv almost always.
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Look at the odds we'll be getting after he shoves over a raise that isn't tiny. Even if he'll just call often enough that we're not ahead of his range anymore when he shoves, I can't ever see a fold even being marginally better than a call vs. an unknown. He needs to butcher a set/QT so much more often than he 3bets a ten to make this a fold. I'd actually be happy to see a shove after raising river in this spot btw.
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joethepro
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i'm definitely calling any shove. i'd be put to the test at 150BB effective stacks, but at this stack size and low stake level, trips is over valued (especially a disguised, surprised river one) and the way he played it does not say FH at all.
he checked flop. he checked turn. that's a really bad way to play if he had trip 5s or 6s. he also probably didn't have QQ b/c of the preflop play but even if he did, i don't think he would check again after the PFR checked the flop. the only, maybe, possible losing hand he could have would be QT as riddim pointed out, but that again is really strange line to take for him.
if he reraised all, i expect to see KT or JT. but as i said before, you should have been pushing all in yourself because he would call with all tens. if you raise to 10. he'll only call you down with lower kicker tens and u just lost value.
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