czzarr
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so I just got around watching episode 2 after our little chitchat last night on irc as we were railing the 25K HU. Now I don't remember why I ever stopped watching this series after finishing episode 1, and I'm definitely watching all remaining episodes in the next 3 days.
I have a solid mathematical background so thus far what was really interesting for me was the plain English explanation of the concepts and the examples, and I think the way you elaborated on implied odds and fold equity was really great.
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SixPackofBud
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wfsfan
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As a beginner (been playing for 1 month), I would say these videos have improved my game more then any other so far.
Thank you very much for spending the time to make these videos and explaining the math from the ground up.
It's truly changed the way I play NLH!
Thanks Again,
-Ian
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DK_Phoenix
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steamer1956
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Time Link to 01:26:27
Flush draw and overcards example: Great example! I just spent 15minutes trying to work out the best play. I cannot see how we can make a raise that is optimal for us where it would be incorrect for the villain to fold. The closest I could come up with is to raise to $250 so pot is $450 and he is folding for $150 which is wrong but just marginally.
The other advantage I can see here is that the slightly more than minraise might cause him to spaz out and jam which is great or alternatively buy us a free card in the roughly 50% of the times we miss (you have to discount the T because we can't really be happy with that either)
Also this builds the pot so we have a bit over pot left.
Any other thoughts?
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steamer1956
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Time Link to 01:31:53
Just a small point: this example doesn't work out because if you open the CO, BU calls and SB squeezes then yes BB folds but BU is still in the hand, which is why it's a squeeze? ;-)
Found the example useful if I just assumed that we raised and the SB reraised.
BTW I love the series, have watched it once already and Haj school and it is the lessons from that which have made me go through this series again much more involved - making notes and visualising every example - which I recommend to everyone. Spotting mistakes like this may seem like nitpicking but I get so much more from it by really paying attention.
Great job Wilt
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steamer1956
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Time Link to 01:44:06
The example here should be Top two pair eg AK 3x3 = 9 combos not 4.
Two pair 27combos - 3 combos of 9 for any two pair because there are top 2, top and bottom, bottom 2. Some will be more or less likely depending on action and texture. For example on KQJ & AT9 all are quite likely and on K65 bottom 2 is more likely IMO.
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WiltOnTilt
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With 6 cards visible and 46 cards unknown, the odds would actually be (46 - 8)/8 or 38/8, which would be 4.75 : 1 exactly. (Just to be completely precise.)
u r right, thanks
there were a cpl errors in this series throughout the vids (unrealistic to expect otherwise i think) but no game-changer mistakes
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Dr. Loiselle
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Regarding the Hand Combinations chart [43m12sec]
Am I missing something. People are saying that this example is wrong:
Two Pair hand with no other info: ex.AK on AK5 2 aces * 2 kings = 4 combos
but it is not. Right? I am not the smartest man but...
if i have AK in my hand and the board is AK5 doesn't that mean there are only 2 aces and 2 kings left which would be 4 combos and not 9 combos like a few people are saying?
the other example on the chart nobody has said anything about:
Pair + Kicker with no other info: ex. AK on K95 4 aces * 3 Kings = 12 combos is wrong?
should it not be 3 aces * 2 kings = 6 combos
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Dr. Loiselle
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Dr. Loiselle
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Hi wilt, i was wondering if it is possible to publish the power point you use in the video, it will be very useful to print out and tak notes
if you want to make your own quasi-powerpoint of this awesome series:
take snapshots of each slide with media player of your choosing.
combine all jpeg's into an adobe pdf document
done
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Hi, I had a question about the 2.2 number, when referring to outs. I'm not really sure where that number came from. If you have seen 5 cards, thats 52-5=47, which would give you 39:8, or 4.8:1. I understand the 2:1 pot odds, but I'm a little unclear of where the 2.2 number came from.
The "2.2 number" came from assuming we get to see both the turn and river with 8 outs. In the next slide in the video, WoT explains it's better to calculate based on the odds you'll hit on the next street only, except of course if you go all in, then the 2.2:1 would be correct. So you are correct with the 4.8:1 ratio.
Link to drawing probability excel worksheet:
http://www.filedropper.com/drawingprobabilityexcelworksheet
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chuckd33
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Dr. Loiselle
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So if that is the case, how would you calculate it. What would be the mathmatical formula to get 2.2.
probability of drawing from flop to turn, (outs / 47)
probability of drawing from turn to river, (outs / 46)
probability of drawing from flop to river,
P = 1 - (47 - outs / 47) * (46 - outs / 46)
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maydayncs
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WoT I gotta say I didn't think it was possible. I've never been bad at any form of math but always hated lessons and note taking. But in the past 2 hours I've covered my monitor with stickies and notes that will obviously have to be written on paper for me to actually use it in practice. The videos I've seen by you, Balugawhale, and Tubasteve alone make this site worth its fee and I've only just begun climbing lol. Keep up the quality work
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WiltOnTilt
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WoT I gotta say I didn't think it was possible. I've never been bad at any form of math but always hated lessons and note taking. But in the past 2 hours I've covered my monitor with stickies and notes that will obviously have to be written on paper for me to actually use it in practice. The videos I've seen by you, Balugawhale, and Tubasteve alone make this site worth its fee and I've only just begun climbing lol. Keep up the quality work
Really appreciate the kind words. These math videos were some of the first vids i ever made so i'm glad you're finding them useful 
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