narcbliss
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Heah Steve
Great video. I think that its a perfect teaching style for the likes of me - a tourney player moving into cash games and wanting to start at the low limits and work up. Your hand reading explanations make this the most informative SSNL video Ive seen. The use of notes, PT and PAHud are really shown as the great tools that they are. Its been a steep learning curve for me in using tools like these and I wish I'd seen this vid a month ago.....
Keep it up. More of the same inc 4 table and .50/1.00 as well.
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maco144
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Need your own intro imo.
I didnt watch the full thing but it really seemed like you got a little off track or distracted with trying to give full commentary with two tables running. If your standalones are going to be sort of basic SSNL stuff I'd def keep doing the PT review at the end as it allows you to recap your thought processes on each important hand you were in as that'll really help people understand the lines youre taking.
Good vid
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tubasteve
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sdone
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Constantine585
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hebel
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Steve,
At uNL, since people call so much, the optimal style is to vbet, vbet, vbet. As a result, I play a pretty nitty 16/13 style, which I believe helps me avoid a lot of the marginal situations that a relatively unskilled player like myself might falter in.
In your video, I see you time and time again "isolating the fish" with marginal hands. Im just not sure how I would play those type of hands if it were me. Generally, I like to isolate with stronger hands, make a hand, and let them figure out what theyre calling me with. They pay 0 attention to table image, and probably dont run pt and pahud. Is this strategy costing me money?
-Hebel
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tubasteve
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The thing is, even when you are isolating with weaker hands, you have the combined power of fold equity and the fact that they will sometimes call down too light when you have a hand to make lots of money against them.
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Sugar Nut
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Steve,
I like your videos as they suit me (being a 100NL Stars reg) quite well. One thing, though, I have to disagree with. Or at least I have to question it.
Time index 38:30
You say that once you you get better postflop you can call raises with 86s (and similar hands I guess) out of the SB. I think that this play will be long term -EV. 3betting is a viable option in my opinion but calling these kinda hands sucks. This is also stated by fslexcduck in one of the unconventional wisdom videos amd it makes perfect sense. Weak hand, no initiative, no position, no profit!
Still great video. Keep up the good work.
Sugar Nut
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tubasteve
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Sugar Nut,
At the smaller stakes where people aren't going to own us as much when we have to play them OOP, it can be a very profitable strategy. It is not my standard play however; I usually prefer to just fold most of these hands when OOP. I do however, prefer to mix up between 3-betting and flat calling if I decide to play the hand, and I try to flat hands that play better postflop (such as JTs) and 3bet hands that I can't flop as well with, like pocket pairs, Ax, and often just air that I am reraising because I think I have lots of FE.
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jer0en72
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Steve,
I just watched your video and think it was very good. I have one question about a comment you made. There is a hand where you have KK, raise preflop and then cbet an A high flop (45.50 min). You say it is usually best to cbet this flop to not do the 'way ahead, way behind thing'. Then you say it is different when you have QQ and there is a K high flop because it is more likely that they are playing Ax than Kx.
Can you tell me why it is better not to cbet in the latter situation? Is it because you can let them chase seeing as the flop probably did not hit them and therefore have a better idea where you are in the hand?
Thanks,
jer0en72
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jer0en72
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tubasteve
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Hi jer00en72,
I do not remember the exact hand and cannot view the vid from my current loc. but was I in position or OOP? When OOP I generally tend to bet A high flops more often than K high flops because it is tough to play OOP and I want to just take the pot on the flop. When IP, sometimes I will bet, but sometimes I will check behind if I think it is likely I can induce a little action from worse hands later.
The key point here is that on Axx flops, we are much less likely to get a bet of of hands like 88 or flopped middle pairs, where on Kxx flops if we check one street often our opponents will "sense weakness" and either bet turn (mistakenly for value) or will call a bet with weak hands. On Axx flops, people play much more straightforwardly so there is usually less value in inducing, and its often better to just try and take down the pot.
Keep in mind this applies ot single raised pots where we are HU, in 3-bet pots or multiway everything changes! Just try to keep in mind that no matter what the situation is, we're trying to maximize value against our opponents range. And even though the KK on Axx and QQ on Kxx situations seem similar, the two different flops hit your opponent's range completely differently.
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jer0en72
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Hi Steve,
thanks for your reply. You were in position in the hand, raising UTG+1 and being called by the BB who was a loose player. You said you were betting this time because he was loose, so that makes sense.
Man, have I got a lot to learn....
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carlk73
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