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IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 595121
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UTG: $31.25
MP: $50.25
Hero (CO): $94.66
BTN: $49.25
SB: $51.78
BB: $8.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with K Q
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, SB calls $2, BB calls $1.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.25) 8 Q 6 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB raises to $13, BB folds, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($33.25) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $36.53, Hero?


Villan is a 24/19 aggressive very aggressive player, His fold to flop cbet is 28% out 18 times, c/r flop 17% out of 18 times

I have a note on him that he did not cbet Q72r flop and c/f.

There's a theorem out that c/r on dry flops is usually a bluff so can i just call him down?

this is a tough spot, hes repping a small range on the flop 88,66,AQ possibly 79s/75s but its doubtful from the SB. However I think I fold the turn unless you have caught him bluffing before. I dont see a hand like QJ taking this line.

Maybe I'm a nit though, lets see other responses.

Given the board is pretty dry and he has a relatively high c/r stat, I think calling the c/r is fine.

On what is pretty much a blank turn card, his turn bet would usually lead me to think that he has a stronger hand than me, and I would probably normally fold. However given he likes to c/r a lot I would think there is still a bunch of air in his range, perhaps a couple of draws (JT or T9 perhaps) and the only hand he can really have the beats you is 88 or 66 (I don't really see him having any 2 pair hands) and given the board texture it seems a weird line if he has a set as all he is going to be doing is scaring off weaker hands rather than trying to get value out of Qx type hands.

Based on that I think I would call.

I think folding seems pretty standard. He has a set about 60% of the time here.
Seems like TAG stats so he would 3bet QQ PF and almost never take a line like this w KQ, QJ, AQ.
So I'm not risking 73bb for the one or two times he decides to spaz out with TPTK(and even this hand beats you) or some weird draw. So basically I think this is almost always for value and would never make this kind of call without a solid read.

if we think this is a fold. Which street do we get rid? can we ditch it on the flop? if we are folding tptk on the flop here does it make us too exploitable?

I can't see you being good here very often at all. What hands do you beat does a 24/19 call with in the SB and take this line with postflop?

I can't think of one that you're ahead of. I doubt very much he's flatting 79 or 57 pre or taking this line with QJ. KQ is a possibility I guess.

This is either a pure bluff, you're splitting or your toast imo, and people are bluffing you far less than you think. I'd fold and not think to much about it.

eta: I've just read your other thread btw, but I think my post still stands.

its so tempting to call this, couse why he would scare out the BB if he has a set, + why he just jams it on blank turn (not totally blank couse if he was bluffing the flop with some bck draw like hearts he got extra equity OTT and this could make sense for him to jam this turn) and u bet pretty weak OTF into 2 players, not sure but i think i would call this

edit: im a calling station

if we think this is a fold. Which street do we get rid? can we ditch it on the flop? if we are folding tptk on the flop here does it make us too exploitable?

I would call the flop and fold the turn vs this kind of action (even vs a PSB I think).
In general I'm not too worried vs a flop raise, it's what they do on the turn afterwards that gives you a more correct view of their hand strenght.

I called Villan had T9 of hearts

I would call, but I'm a calling station in certain spots. I don't see the villian jamming the turn on this board w/ a set unless he's really that bad. Given the history of the moves he tends to make on you, I'd be even more likely to call here. This is only if I view him as bad though. If I think he's a good player, I'd be less likely to call because I've caught him bluffing twice and I don't really think he'll try to spazz out and bluff me off top pair+ on the turn when I've already shown that I'm not afraid to call him down with top pair.

I called Villan had T9 of hearts

+1 for calling stations hearts makes a lot of sense

Why is jamming turn with a set bad?

What is considered a high percentage of c/r in general?

yeah on the turn his range is extremely polarized. It doesn't make sense for him to bet that large on a dry flop/turn with a set his hand almost screams draw so i think he has a draw like 85% of the time here. If you have a read on him that he is extremely agro then this would be a snap call for me on the turn because on the flop when he raises he has a huge range and i don't expect him to raise with qx very often and if he had jj+ he probably would have 3 bet pre. So this is a easy call.

If villain was a fish then i think this would be an easy fold because in my experience fish almost never play their draws agro so i would probably fold the flop.

I think you played this hand perfectly against and super agro tag because the way to exploit them is to just sit back and call away... assuming no draw hit on the turn

Nice job on the call. Where is this theorem you talked about? The one that a check-raise on a dry board is a bluff?