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Q^.^Q

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Hello!

Im new in this forum - actually my first post, but I am reading others. I am playing mostly NL5 in PokerStars and hoping to move up soon. During my play I have wondered what would other players do in this situation and why? Here are some hand examples:

First hand:

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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BTN: $9.26 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 8, 3B: 2, AF: 7.5, Hands: 180
Hero (SB): $10.49 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 3.2, Hands: 399322
BB: $6.55 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 24, 3B: 2, AF: 1.4, Hands: 368
CO: $5.07 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 0.7, Hands: 99

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with KClub AHeart
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) KSpade 5Heart 6Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $6.40, Hero calls $5.40

Turn: ($13.10) TClub (2 players)

River: ($13.10) 7Diamond (2 players)

Hold'em Manager was doing database update that time and I didnt have stats on this guy, but I knew he was a weak player, because he was playing only two tables and had shown some weak hands. If he raised all in then I though, okey, my top pair isnt most likely good this time, but I have strong hand, TPTK with backdoor flush draw - my first opinion was actually 56 because I read Ed Millers Small Stakes book yesterday and he talked there to be careful on connected boards, because people like to play those hands JT 98 etc. I was quite sure he didnt have aces, because I think he would have raised preflop. Then I was thinking about 55 and 66, could be possible holdings. What convienced me calling was a hand like medium pair, flush and straight draw and ofcoure maybe AK aswell. Opinions?

Second hand:

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1851382
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BTN: $4.46 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 106
SB: $4.53 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 1.9, Hands: 471
BB: $3.43 - VPIP: 61, PFR: 7, 3B: 5, AF: 1.8, Hands: 122
Hero (UTG): $8.07 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 3.2, Hands: 399322
MP: $11.75 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 1.3, Hands: 508
CO: $5.82 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 4.3, Hands: 129

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with A Diamond A Club
Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) 3 Diamond Q Heart 6 Club (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, MP folds, CO raises to $1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.62) 5 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.55, Hero folds

Villain is quite agressive solid player, but he limps in multiway pot, which is perfect for small pairs, with QQ or KK and probably AQ he would have reraised preflop. I decided to call the reraise to see what he does next. I didnt want to re-reraise him, because I hoped to catch A on the turn. On turn he bets big again and then I was quite sure he had small pair and decided to fold. If he had like KQ or AQ I think he would had slown down after calling his reraise on flop. Bad or good play?

Third hand:

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1851384
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SB: $12.77 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 9, 3B: 5, AF: 0.7, Hands: 106
Hero (BB): $4.24 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 3.2, Hands: 399322
UTG: $3.95 - VPIP: 6, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 17
CO: $8.84 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 4.0, Hands: 78
BTN: $4.07 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 5.3, Hands: 68

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with Q Diamond K Heart
3 folds, SB raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 2 Diamond K Diamond Q Heart (2 players)
SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.10) 6 Heart (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB calls $0.70

River: ($2.50) 4 Diamond (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Villain shows 56s and wins the pot.

Thought quite long time to bet on the river, because it seems like he is playing AK or AQ - I thought he would give up chasing flush draw on the turn. On the other hand I thought flush IS possible and he is regular and might be playing tricky and I really wouldnt like to call reraise there, so I decided to check. Should I had to play the hand differently - betting more on flop or turn?

Fourth hand:

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1851394
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MP2: $5.46 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 13, AF: 0.0, Hands: 104
CO: $5.22 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 15, 3B: 12, AF: 0.0, Hands: 85
BTN: $5.00 - VPIP: 10, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 3.8, Hands: 504
Hero (SB): $4.51 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 3.2, Hands: 399322
BB: $5.67 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 16, 3B: 12, AF: 0.0, Hands: 50
UTG: $6.74 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 10, 3B: 9, AF: 2.0, Hands: 67
UTG+1: $2.20 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 13.5, Hands: 649
MP1: $1.63 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 99

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A Spade A Heart
5 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.85) 8 Spade 4 Diamond T Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.85) J Club (2 players)
Hero bets $1.15, BTN raises to $4, Hero calls $2.46 all in

River: ($9.07) Q Club (2 players - 1 is all in)

Villain shows JTs.

I know this guy is a tight player, at this time I was thinking that he has big pair, straight draw or maybe AJ from button. Rather right call mostly or should fold there when meeting resistance? He could have small pair aswell, but would he call reraise preflop?

Any kind of feedback is welcome! Smile

Posted 10 months ago

MI5 Mark

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hand 1 call and re-evaluate on turn - more aggression and him being a loose passive means your tptk is crushed.

hand 2 - I would call all 3 streets villan being aggro (unless perhaps if flush comes in and he shoves)

hand 3 - bet bigger on turn (you could even overbet shove), as played bet fold river

hand 4 - bet fold turn, just give him credit for having your 1 pair beat.

These replies are in a vacuum at the micros. Usually you .just make a hand and just bet until raised, unless you have specific reads that they are aggro donks/over rep hands etc so its tough for people to make accurate comments.

A general comment, you have very nitty stats, I would open up your game alot especially IP

Posted 10 months ago

Q^.^Q

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Thanks for your advice and opinion - was helpful.
Mostly played only top 10% percent of hands, thats why I had so nitty stats, was annoyed by regulars who always show up with aces or kings. Loosened up today and it actually went much better - thanks!

Posted 10 months ago

urb

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hand 1 - I agree with calling and re-evaluating turn. Stove your hand vs 2p, sets and combo draws range - you probably have around 50% equity. If he doesn't check/raise with draws you are crushed.

hand 2 - getting raised on dry 4 way flop with overpair sucks. It is perfectly OK to fold this turn. I just don't like your reason with "hoping to catch an A on the turn". Really? You know you were 22-1 dog, right?

hand 3 - a) Use auto-reload! b) bet more flop+turn! c) checking back river is ok because he either has flush or is afraid you just hit one, so no value there most of the time. Again I don't like your explanation for hating to call a raise. Your decision for betting should only depend on possibility that he calls with worse hands. And if you bet here you should fold to a raise.

hand 4 - your 3b preflop was too small. Make it around 0.45-0.50. You need a really ugly board or a very good read to fold AA in 3b pot. I couldn't fold this one.

Yes, definitely play more hands in position, just don't spew chips postflop with weak hands.

Posted 10 months ago

urb

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Also, playing 14/9 you are to passive. You play 1/3 of hands without initiative which is most likely not optimal.
Edit: although it could be ok at these stakes if setmining is profitable.

Posted 10 months ago

Q^.^Q

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Really awesome to read your comments (y)

In hand two I meant that, if I 3-bet him and then he 4-bets back, then I still would have to fold or I would have been pot commited. And I would had missed my chance to hit my 2 outs - I was planning to fold on turn if he bets and I dont hit my ace.

In hand three I thought quite time, to bet for value there, but I didnt because of the flush. If he had like AK then I think he would have 3-bet me on the flop, to defend his hand from being drawn.

One reason why I havnt used auto-reload is that this is one sign how I determine who is regular and whos not. Usually when I have lost dollar or two, I put it back manually. Aswell then I pretty much know, how much I have won or lost in my mind, which I actually think isnt very good statement, because I should be focusing on making right decisions. Gonna try it out perhaps some day.

Setmining and playing top pairs pretty much worked, if I had good table selection (few weak players who would go all in preflop), but against regulars looser play seems to be better.

Posted 10 months ago

urb

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also next time:
1 hand = 1 thread

gl

Posted 10 months ago




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