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FlyingMachine

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Villain: 258 hands, 19/12, WtSD: 18%, W$SD: 50%, River AFq: 29%. Fold SB to steal: 100%(8/8), 3bet from blinds: 2% (1/51) No special read, and no other stats relevant to the action.

Ongame Network $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1847744
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SB: $20.80
BB: $20.00
UTG: $23.97
MP: $12.96
Hero (CO): $19.90
BTN: $21.48

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is CO with Q Spade A Spade
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 1 fold, SB calls $0.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.40) J Spade J Heart 4 Diamond (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.40) 5 Spade (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.40) 3 Spade (2 players)
SB bets $1.10, Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $20.20 all in

Hero?

Call or fold? Was my river raise bad? Do you just call here?

Posted 10 months ago

Adriano85

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Offcourse your river raise is not bad. There is enough value. Worse flushes, Jx, A2....
Also I would cbet the flop..
As played I'm folding on the river. More fullhouse combos than worse flushes and Jx.

Posted 10 months ago

FlyingMachine

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Mostly I cbet the flop, but I had a crazy image at the table. Smile So my plan was to see a cheap SD, don't wanted to get a c/r.

Posted 10 months ago

Adriano85

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what do you think about the river yourself?

Posted 10 months ago

betman313

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Villain seems really weak tight so i would expect him to play pretty honestly on the flop. i would cbet to protect against hands that have equity against you but will not put further money in the pot unless they hit and because i do not expect him to bluff a lot after you check back flop and you can barrel good turns to fold out his PP on turn or river.
river is a little ugly when you really have a crazy image. but not sure he would go nuts here with a worse flush a lot and also there do not seem to be that many combowise given that he has been tight from the SB so far. and you have not really invested much in the pot yet and his raise is pretty huge so i would fold.

Posted 10 months ago

one_under_par

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Mostly I cbet the flop, but I had a crazy image at the table.



wouldn't this give the villain more flushes and Jx in their range? and if he had 44 and 55 wouldn't he want value from Jx himself from 'crazy'? narrowing his FH range to pretty much exactly 33?

Posted 10 months ago

FlyingMachine

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wouldn't this give the villain more flushes and Jx in their range? and if he had 44 and 55 wouldn't he want value from Jx himself from 'crazy'? narrowing his FH range to pretty much exactly 33?


My image was crazy, but that doesn't mean they are responded to it already. But I saw a chance, that he might c/r my cbet on this flop, after my preflop raises and cbets at the table (2-3 against him) so I checked behind. I had decent hand for it, with a trash, I still cbet it on this flop. He could check his turn full house with 55, and there are players who check flop/turn with his 44 here too, giving me a chance to bet. He can have even JJ, and that's 1 combo more (I'm not paranoid btw Smile ).

"what do you think about the river yourself?"
Exactly what you think. Smile

Posted 10 months ago

terp

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stop asking what to do and start handreading (in the OP)

Posted 10 months ago

BeatItPlease

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We didn't see the action before the hand, but do you really think you established that much of an image that villain is gonna play back a lot here?

As a standard: cbet of course, barrel a lot since his range is so weak on a board like that.

As played: Snap the river. I mean what's his range? He never checks the turn with a hand so you are basically assuming his range is 33 when folding.

Posted 10 months ago

FlyingMachine

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stop asking what to do and start handreading (in the OP)


Ok, my next posted hand will be such. Smile

Posted 10 months ago




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