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With the AK hand on table 3, do you still call the river if the turn is the Qc? Or do you bet the turn?
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Time Link to 00:11:13
With the AK hand on table 3, do you still call the river if the turn is the Qc? Or do you bet the turn?
Time Link to 00:49:29
id really like to hear your thought process for the 7h4h hand you played on the BUT vs bozo.I get it that youre on the BUT vs an extremely aggro fishstick.However isnt just flatting there super -ev? Im pretty sure a 3B there would be a futile attempt at taking it down PF,but wouldnt it be better to have the lead after the flop w/74?
I dont think we hit the flop good enough,enough of the time to make it +EV vs this type of player that is more than likely to CB flop and turn and probably shove river as hes done numerous times before that hand.Were you just trying to flop huge and get him to Shove light? were you planning on barreling any flop if he didnt CB?
Also werent you concerned with the blinds still left to act behind you?
If the BB(looks Taggish) were to 3B and bozo called,Would you Flat there too?
What was your plan when you just called the flop and turn?
what Board runout were you planning on calling or raising?
Sorry if im all over the place with my questioning but i just find myself making those kind of flat calls vs very Bad Aggro's myself very often and find myself not sticking to my guns after the flop when im sure i probably have the best of it.Im just a little confused because i would assume we should be tightening up and raising or 3Betting him for Value as much as possible IMO.
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With the AK hand on table 3, do you still call the river if the turn is the Qc? Or do you bet the turn?
so no pair on the turn? I would look to either bet the turn or just check-fold. Q-high, 3-straight, 3-flush is probably bad enough to just check-fold OOP. if it went check-check on the turn and the river was then 4 to a straight, I'd just check-fold.
Board: 7c 4c 3d Qc
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.845% 38.50% 00.35% 17532 158.00 { AhKd }
Hand 1: 61.155% 60.81% 00.35% 27692 158.00 { random }
id really like to hear your thought process for the 7h4h hand you played on the BUT vs bozo.I get it that youre on the BUT vs an extremely aggro fishstick.However isnt just flatting there super -ev? Im pretty sure a 3B there would be a futile attempt at taking it down PF,but wouldnt it be better to have the lead after the flop w/74?
There are several things in my favor that I like:
1. I think the blinds make it playable--tightish looking unknown and short stacker who has very tight stats (granted small sample).
2. He is raising nearly 100% of hands. His range in that spot might actually be 100% of all hands. If he was terrible postflop but his range was a lot tighter preflop, then I might fold it. But as it stands he has so much complete garbage that I can steal some pots.
3. The implied odds are huge. Beyond him being absolutely terrible, I have developed some actual non-stat reads on him so I think my edge vs. him in a single-raised pot in position 100BB deep is tremendous with most hands. I can't guarantee a heads up pot but #1 leads me to believe I have a good chance of that happening.
4. The more hands I play with him, the more chances I have to tilt him so that he'll dump me his stack sooner than he would otherwise. There's an old saying "you have to give action to get action." It's not entirely true here, but I can definitely get more action than he otherwise would give.
I can go overboard at times, no doubt. I think this one is okay, and in general I think it's better to be too loose than too tight against someone this bad.
I dont think we hit the flop good enough,enough of the time to make it +EV vs this type of player that is more than likely to CB flop and turn and probably shove river as hes done numerous times before that hand.Were you just trying to flop huge and get him to Shove light? were you planning on barreling any flop if he didnt CB?
If he's raising 100%, c-betting 100%, then 2- and 3-barreling a very high %, then I don't need to flop a particularly strong hand to continue. I can also re-bluff from time to time. Sounds insane to bluff a guy like this, but all I have to make him fold is his air, which happens to be most of his range on any given flop.
If the BB(looks Taggish) were to 3B and bozo called,Would you Flat there too?
Maybe if he was full stacked, but I wouldn't call vs. a short stack especially since he looks pretty tight.
What was your plan when you just called the flop and turn?
When I call the flop I'm probably going to need a good card to continue. Beyond the obvious ones that improve me or give me a draw, a card that pairs the board or puts an undercard out would be good. So basically 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, J.
He checked the turn and I checked it back but I would have folded the Ad.
Bad Aggro's myself very often and find myself not sticking to my guns after the flop when im sure i probably have the best of it.Im just a little confused because i would assume we should be tightening up and raising or 3Betting him for Value as much as possible IMO.
I don't like the idea of tightening up because (A) he's playing looser and I have position on him, so why should I tighten up? (B) he's playing very poorly so my implied odds and overall edge are much greater, and that applies to every single hand. With AA it doesn't matter because my hand is already +EV. With 72 it doesn't matter because my hand was so -EV that the increase is not enough for it to be playable. But with something like 74s, depending on position, strength of reads, stack depth, his range, and just generally how bad he is, it's possible for it to be +EV sometimes.
I don't like the idea of 3-betting him. Like you said I have little fold equity. All I'd be doing is building a pot with a bad hand, and reducing the stack to pot ratio which in turn would reduce my chances to make money off him (because his biggest mistakes are going to be on the later streets). Taking the lead doesn't have a lot of value because he may just donkbet the flop anyway.
I seen you had NoteCaddy and didnt seem to get much use out of it.Theres and AddOn package called NoteCaddyEdge that is Insanely helpful.The badges are a great help and all of the Definitions are extremely helpful.I cant tell you all of the benefits without writing another short story here so just take a look for yourself at notecaddyedge.com.You'll thank me.
you're right that I don't use it that much. It comes standard with PT4 and I haven't gotten to really customize it or find the value in it. definitely going to check out that add-on. Thanks!
you're right that I don't use it that much. It comes standard with PT4 and I haven't gotten to really customize it or find the value in it. definitely going to check out that add-on. Thanks!
Notecaddy does not come standard with PT4. PT4 uses note tracker which is very different. NoteCaddy is only available for HM2. For a detailed comparison of the two please see http://assaultware.blogspot.com/2011/12/earlier-this-month-pokertracker-4-went.html which will give you an idea why you aren't getting much use out of note tracker
NCE is for notecaddy, not for note tracker since note tracker does not have the features to support a package like that
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Good series, good concept I really enjoy..
Why aren't you betting bigger on the turn? I think you can extract more value from FD's and str8D's, slowplayed two pair, did you have a read that Villian was a station, and would slowplay hands also like QQ and A9's thinking those are the nuts?
Good series, good concept I really enjoy..
Why aren't you betting bigger on the turn? I think you can extract more value from FD's and str8D's, slowplayed two pair, did you have a read that Villian was a station, and would slowplay hands also like QQ and A9's thinking those are the nuts?
to the last sentence, yes I knew he was terrible. there are a few reasons I like betting small vs. these types but mostly, the longer he's in the hand, the more chances he has to do something really stupid so I want to keep him in the hand as long as possible. I bet as small as I could to set up a pot sized river shove.
to the last sentence, yes I knew he was terrible. there are a few reasons I like betting small vs. these types but mostly, the longer he's in the hand, the more chances he has to do something really stupid so I want to keep him in the hand as long as possible. I bet as small as I could to set up a pot sized river shove.
ok, so what is you plan if the flush or straight is coming out on the board, facing a donkbet or checked or check/raised?
I would really like you if you could tell which table your where taking about in the start of the hand, fx. on the upper left A6s, it's kind of confusing to follow. thx..
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how can you calculate that 17% of 90 is about 15 so quick? is there is shortcut to estimate such things?, I know you're good at math!
Thx..
ok, so what is you plan if the flush or straight is coming out on the board, facing a donkbet or checked or check/raised?
I would really like you if you could tell which table your where taking about in the start of the hand, fx. on the upper left A6s, it's kind of confusing to follow. thx..
I think I'm never, ever, ever folding no matter what happens.
Are you talking about K6s hand on table 4?
how can you calculate that 17% of 90 is about 15 so quick? is there is shortcut to estimate such things?, I know you're good at math!
Thx..
not sure about a shortcut, but 17% --> 1/6 --> 90/6 --> 15 is what goes on in my head. usually the % --> fraction or vice versa makes things easier first. rather than multipling 90 x 17.
I think I'm never, ever, ever folding no matter what happens.
Are you talking about K6s hand on table 4?
No, it was just a imaginary example. To make it easier to follow which hands, your are discussing during the session.
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