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mmakyyy7

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Villian 30/23 3bet 15 fold to cbet 0 after 31 hands

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1826874
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Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $5.22
SB: $8.44
BB: $5.09
UTG: $8.79
MP: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with J Club J Spade
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.47) 8 Heart T Spade 5 Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.07) A Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, BTN calls $0.55

I think that my like is ok. Some of you may suggest that turn bet should be bigger oand so on. But what about river what is my plan. What are my reasons to bet the turn and why. On what card on the river I should do X and when Y. Please could you write you thought procces. I woul be very grateful

Posted 11 months ago

harvie316

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river is just a c-f I dont see worse calling. Tx is going to check back and most likely not call a bet.

I was going to say bluff heart rivers but i would'nt as i think we do have SD value against alot of Tx hands with no hearts.

Posted 11 months ago

Adriano85

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On 5NL the biggest % of our winnnigs comes from extracting value from weaker hands. I would bet the flop bigger on this board because I think our sizing does not change villains calling frequencies so we want to get as much as possible value from weaker pairs and draws (we have the best hand here like 90% of the time). Since we are OOP I would also barrel the turn and like you said yourself I would bet bigger. Villain is probably still calling with 9h9x, JhTx, QhTx, KhTx, KxTh etc, etc. If we bet something like 0.85 OTT and get raised we have an easy decision. When called OTT I would C/F all hearts on the river.

Posted 11 months ago

cowman9000

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I think villian could have called the turn with Tx and a FD or turned 2 pair once he calls.
The Ah is the ultimate scare card on the turn. You could bet the turn as a bluff hoping villian to fold his KT type hands. if you are betting as a bluff I think your bet size is fine.It would be thin value betting on the turn, without any info on villian I might just try to get to a cheap showdown. It will be hard to get value on the river. You could check the river and plan on picking off a bluff when villian misses his flush but if he called the turn with a pair and FD it is likely to go check-check.

Posted 11 months ago

Adriano85

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IYou could bet the turn as a bluff hoping villian to fold his KT type hands.



Why do we want villain to fold KT if we have the best hand? We want villain to call with KT to have more equity vs his range...

Posted 11 months ago

fezoff

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I like your 4x pre for value, but agree with Adriano that you should bet closer to pot on flop and turn. If you are called on the turn you can't really bet for value on the river c/f is prob best unless its a non hart I might be inclined to c/c a smallish bet.

The Ah is the ultimate scare card on the turn.


Im not so sure about this as it means couldn't have called the flop with the A high FD which makes the 3 combos possible, JT QT and KT. I think we can still bet for value.

@OP do you have any reads on this villain dude

Posted 11 months ago




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