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Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1825953
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BTN: $3.76
Hero (SB): $10.52
BB: $18.71
UTG: $8.18
MP: $10.00
CO: $10.15

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with A Q
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 4 J 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.44) T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.03, BB calls $1.03

River: ($3.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3, Hero???


Villain 46/15 after 13 hands no reads so far.

what do you think about barreling the turn here?

Villains size on the river looks really weird to me. i am not even sure if he is able to value bet Jx here and if he does probably not with this sizing. also there is a good chance he will raise a lot of hands on the turn on that board texture that would be able to value bet that size on the river (twopair+).

would you call the river?

i think 2 barrel is standard. I dont think they can have sets that often here as they would of raised by the term so I think there range is "capped", if that what i means. the guy looks like a fish and i dont like to bluff fish because they never fold.

Don't really like your your turn bet here. I think the T helps his range more than your perceived range. Also you open yourself up to a c/r, albeit I don't know with what frequency he would do that. Is there any merit in 3-barelling this guy once we have bet the turn?

Turn is a must bet IMO. We can make better hands to fold and we have a lot of nut outs. Villain seems to be fishy preflop but the sample size is really small and we don't know anything about his postflop game. Maybe he is calling a cbet 100% and gives up a lot on the turn. I would treat this guy as an unknown and barrel turn and river. I know we should not worry about balance at micro's but I think we should not falling into a habbit of checking every river when we miss and only 3barrel nuts.

Turn is a must bet IMO. We can make better hands to fold and we have a lot of nut outs. Villain seems to be fishy preflop but the sample size is really small and we don't know anything about his postflop game. Maybe he is calling a cbet 100% and gives up a lot on the turn. I would treat this guy as an unknown and barrel turn and river. I know we should not worry about balance at micro's but I think we should not falling into a habbit of checking every river when we miss and only 3barrel nuts.

i just wasn't sure if he would fold any made hand on that river that he would not already have folded on the turn.
not sure maybe we should only barrel turn if we think we can also bluff the river? as fezoff said that turn card gives us some more outs but probably does not increase our foldequity a lot. also he raises probably hands against which we could win a big pot on the river if we hit. and if he raises we may have to fold depending on size and give up a lot of equity. so maybe x/calling this turn is better?
would you call river as played?

It depends on what range you put him on, if you think his range here is mostly made up of FD's then you could call with A high as a bluff catcher. However he could easily have a T or J that he is now value betting after you shut down on the river. Its wired size thin value bet but I assume most players at 10NL are not to familiar with BalugaWhales vids on thin value.

ps. I've seen plenty of players at these stakes play a set this way, although it might not be the norm, it might be a possibility

I agree. Don't focus too much on betsizing from a recreational player. He might be betting QJ or KQ with this sizing. Without notes about his sizing and the hands he showed down I would not pay attention to it.

How about this line, betting turn and c/c river under the assumption that he will raise flop/turn with over pairs, sets and two pair hands. So that leaves his river range with PP below TT that he checks behind and missed FD that he bets? Or would we want at least a 7 to take this line?

How about this line, betting turn and c/c river under the assumption that he will raise flop/turn with over pairs, sets and two pair hands. So that leaves his river range with PP below TT that he checks behind and missed FD that he bets? Or would we want at least a 7 to take this line?

It's very unlikely villain has an overpair, he flats from the BB. I agree with you we can assume he would raise 2p and sets OTT often. 99,88 and missed FD's are definitely in his range but we are beat by the pairs that he could turn into a bluff OTR and he might still bet Jx so I think a C/C on the river is not that great.

Without a better read I would agree, just wanted to throw it out there. Would you take that line with 99's here?

If I was villain with 99?

No hero with 99 and we ended up at the river like this.

99 and AQ are almost equal in this hand because with 99 we beat some flushdraws but we also do that with AQ. We lose to every Jx and better with both hands. So I would C/F the river with 99 as well..

I like the turn bet, but I'm not wild about the thought to barrel the river though. We don't know much about villain but I think we can guess that he's passive.

I'm not sure he's going to fold a J. I'd assume 88/99 folds the turn. We beat any flush draws and I doubt a passive guy bluffs them.

Based on that I'd c/f.

Good point. The thing I struggle with in situations like this to estimate what % of villains range is made up of FD's. Do you have a method for estimating this at the tables? Any general rules of thumb etc?