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BTN: $32.64 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 23, 3B: 8, AF: 4.5, Hands: 108

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 9 2 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.35) T (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

River: ($9.35) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.00, Hero ??

Hey guys,

was wondering especially on the turn what's our best play. Should we rather check call or bet out?
I think there are some reasons to bet: to make him fold something like 66, A8. On the other hand, this card improves a lot of his hands: 9T, JT, QT etc.
And what do you think about the river- is this a fold? It does look value-ish, since we can expect him to check back a lot of showdown value hands.

Thanks for the help.

I would def bet the turn and also bet bigger. I think we can bluffcatch the river because we would often bet an Ace ourself so villain can make a thin value bet with worse I guess. Also he is pretty aggro in general so capable of making thin value bets. What about making a small value bet on the river ourself?

river is an easy call, we have under-repped our hand somewhat, looks more like Tx jj-kk. Not that JJ-KK should be checking the river, but hes prob not a good enough hand reader as it is.

river is an easy call, we have under-repped our hand somewhat, looks more like Tx jj-kk. Not that JJ-KK should be checking the river, but hes prob not a good enough hand reader as it is.

If our hand looks like the range you discribed, what hands he is betting on the river that we beat? I don't see worse Aces in his range and his bet looks like a value one.

Bigger on the turn, close to $4. Am I the only one wondering just why you check river? He has a lot of showdown value hands happy to check behind, there's not guarantee he's blluffing missed draws either, just value bet.

If our hand looks like the range you discribed, what hands he is betting on the river that we beat? I don't see worse Aces in his range and his bet looks like a value one.

that's assuming they are even hand reading, but your right. 76s missed which they could be bluffing and a few float turned FDs. Other then that they dont really have a big bluffing range unless there a a pair hand into a bluff

River is a bet or check/fold. Bet > check/fold.

that's assuming they are even hand reading, but your right. 76s missed which they could be bluffing and a few float turned FDs. Other then that they dont really have a big bluffing range unless there a a pair hand into a bluff

Yeah I agree with you so what do you think about making a small value bet ourself like gamble said? I think we can get some calls from J9, QT, JT etc.

yeah i would be betting river here as others have said too. guy seems a bit fishy from stats so would be losing value by checking here in the long run.

I think the turn bet is fine, we picked up equity and we can make him fold hands like 33, 44, 55, 2x. But i'm not sure if betting bigger chances his calling range, he might just care about his own hand and see another overcard on the turn!

On the river you should bet/fold, he has alot of hands like Tx, 9x, 8x, 66-77 in his range, that he would happily check back, but call a small bet with! As played i think you have to check/fold, i don't think he would bet any worse hand for value and there aren't many hands that he can bluff with. Imo you'll see 2 pair like A9, A8, T9, T8 often...

I was wondering about the c-bet on the flop: Villian seems to be a bit fishy given his gap between VPIP/PFR. He might have alot connectors, suited connectors and suited one gappers in his range, that call the c-bet, and there aren't many turn cards that we like. Or is this a standard c-bet??

Are you planning to bomb the river too if you miss? Because 2barreling won't be profitable here, 3barreling may be.

As played if you check it's a check-fold because first: majority of his turn calling range has SD value and I don't expect him to turn it into a bluff and second: I don't expect him to bluff on an ace very often. He won't vbet worse here either.

I think you should bet the river, but I'd make it small.

Regards

Are you planning to bomb the river too if you miss? Because 2barreling won't be profitable here, 3barreling may be.

Why don't you think that 2barreling is profitable? Isn't 3barreling a bit spewy vs this guy?

Bet the river.

Why don't you think that 2barreling is profitable? Isn't 3barreling a bit spewy vs this guy?

Because he has a whole bunch of pairs and pair+draw hands which he won't fold on the turn (even 77 won't fold here).

Because he has a whole bunch of pairs and pair+draw hands which he won't fold on the turn (even 77 won't fold here).

It may not be profitable in and off itself, but with our strong equity come implied odds - that is why it is crucial to value bet river when we hit one of our outs.

The thing is, if we check this turn we are giving up and it is very easy for anyone to steal our equity, which is a disaster. And we probably don't even need that many implied odds, off the top of my head analyzing similar hands with flopzilla if we add our PE+FE it comes to about flipping with his range (he still folds some hands) and we get to protect our strong equity doing it, plus implied odds.