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25NL 2 pair on a flush board vs raise

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yack83

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Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1814030
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BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.8, Hands: 230

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with T Diamond K Diamond
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.63, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.38

Flop: ($1.36) K Spade T Spade A Spade (2 players)
Hero bets $0.97, BTN raises to $3.14, Hero ???

Should we fold here already? We are not beating anything really or should we call and reevaluate on the turn? Also I like a donk here because we get more info if he raises us and lose less money. If we check raise and get reraised we have to fold. What do you think?

Posted 11 months ago

Frank959

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Just by looking at villain's stats he seems to have a very tight range that probably hit the flop really well. He could very well have the Q or J of spades for a royal flush draw. I think in this case I would check call the flop, and see the turn card. We have 6 outs to hit a full house. If the turn card is another spade or a blank we should just check give up.

Posted 11 months ago

yack83

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But what should we do in this case, when we donk and he raised - is this a fold or a call and then fold on the turn?

Posted 11 months ago

Frank959

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Right now I think we are in the abyss, we are not sure about our hand. If you are going to call his flop raise then you must be willing to check call villain down on every street. In this case I am folding here, if the turn card is a J, Q, a spade, or even a blank that doesn't help your hand you are going to have to fold to a turn bet. There are to many scare cards on the turn and river for you. The pot is small and if we fold it's no big deal....If villain raises you on the button a lot try 3 betting and see what happens. on the other hand if villain doesn't raise that often on the button he could be a tight player in which we might be better off folding this hand OOP....

Posted 11 months ago

davesmi

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Mathematically its an easy fold. You have to invest another 2.17 to win 5.47. Which is less than 2 to 1. You have about 24% to catch your boat by the river which isnt enough equity to continue profitably. And he could already have you drawing slimmer than that or even dead with a better two pair, a set, or a royal flush draw. This guy is a nit and this board slams his range much harder than yours. I would say this is an easy fold.

Posted 11 months ago

mwildjack

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This is a board that is good for fastplaying big hands. If he has a Qs or a Js flushdraw I dont expect villain to raise you alot here. If he does, there are only 6 combos of QJ,QT flushdraws possible and that doesnt make up for you being far behind of his raising range. So i would fold

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25,740 games 0.001 secs 25,740,000 games/sec

Board: Ks As Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 22.982% 21.30% 01.68% 5482 433.50 { KdTd }
Hand 1: 77.018% 75.33% 01.68% 19391 433.50 { KK+, TT, QJs, QJo, QsTc, QsTd, QsTh, Qs9c, Qs9d, Qs9h }


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16,830 games 0.001 secs 16,830,000 games/sec

Board: Ks As Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.970% 23.39% 01.58% 3937 265.50 { KdTd }
Hand 1: 75.030% 73.45% 01.58% 12362 265.50 { KK+, TT, QJs, QsJc, QsJd, QsJh, QsTc, QsTd, QsTh, Qs9c, Qs9d, Qs9h }


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13,860 games 0.001 secs 13,860,000 games/sec

Board: Ks As Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 17.929% 16.11% 01.82% 2233 252.00 { KdTd }
Hand 1: 82.071% 80.25% 01.82% 11123 252.00 { KK+, TT, QJs, QsJc, QsJd, QsJh, QsTc, QsTd, QsTh }


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Posted 11 months ago

davesmi

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I agree completely. Easy fold. You simply dont have enough equity on this board vs his raising range.

Posted 11 months ago




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