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BTN: $17.60
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $21.22
UTG: $10.89
MP: $19.85
CO: $10.71

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with T A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.60) 4 3 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.37, Hero raises to $1.20, MP calls $0.83

Turn: ($3.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.05, MP calls $2.05

River: ($7.10) J (2 players), Hero???



Villain 14/5 after 21 hands

i just explain what i were thinking on each street and you can comment on that.


pre

i was not sure between fold, 3bet and just call. its kinda the bottom of what i would call here and kinda the top of my bluffing range. i decided to just call because he made it just 2,5x so i am getting better odds and there is less money to collect by 3betting.


flop

i think he will cbet this board with almost his entire pre flop range. and a lot of his range misses that flop. i know that it does not hit my calling range a lot either and that i can not really rep a lot by check/raising but hoped he would just give up with hands that missed. also i still have 7 outs against most of his calling range.

turn

i am not really happy about the turn. actually the plan was to raise the flop and give up when called. because most of his flop calling range are overpairs and i doubt i would get a lot of folds on the turn.
this turn made the board 4 straight though and i thought maybe he would give up 88-TT or maybe a stubborn AX with a backdoor flushdraw or something. but again i do not really rep a lot 7x makes not really a lot of sense for me to have and maybe he thinks i would even potcontroll some sets on this turn.

river

some part of me was tempted to just shove because its pretty obvious he is on a bluffcatcher. but its pretty much a blank and he is pretty much unknown so i think giving up here is just best. and not continue the mistake of the turn.

I like the flat.

OTF without a betsizing read, on this flop I would usually give up. Don't expect him to fold any pair or Ax (all of which have us beat IMO). We're drawing super thin, and at best we're drawing to a chop.

As played, I expect him to fold a lot of his Ax OTT, so I think firing river is probaby not good. Sucks when he flips over Ax. But he probably only has 3 maybe 4 combos of flush draws, and a lot more PPs.

I learned on the hard way that it's totally unnecessary to make such moves against calling station zoom players. They are just calling and calling

As nitty as it sounds I think foldIng pre would be fine. Flatting I marginally ok.

Honestly, really spewy.And showing the river would be the ultmate spew.Also i`d fold this pre flop oop.

I learned on the hard way that it's totally unnecessary to make such moves against calling station zoom players. They are just calling and calling

This.Make good hands and value bet them.

y ok i have played around a little with pokerstove and his range here is pretty pocketpair heavy. and on this flop is is probably not folding any pocket pair against a raise. so i have at best 40% FE and not very good equity.
i agree that our focus should be on value betting but if i think we should also work on our bluffing game if we already feel comfortable at our value betting game. i obviously failed here but i think i will learn from it.
pre i agree that calling is marginal against a tight zoom mp open. would you prefer adding this hand to your 3bet bluffing range or just folding it?

As nitty as it sounds I think foldIng pre would be fine. Flatting I marginally ok.

I don't even think it's nitty, what good can possibly come from this?

Don't put money on in any street without some read, it's 10nl

And one more thing to add. Dont fall into the mistake that you convince yourself that this bluff will work because you would fold with air to such a checkraise if you were in villain's shoes. People are doing brainless calls with marginal trash hands.

3bet or fold pre here, leaning very strongly towards folding. As played this is pretty much lighting money on fire. He doesn't have much air if any and people love to put you on busted flush draws.

Bad players usually play pretty straight forward.....When villain bets into us with a low PFR of 5 we should be a little concerned. It's possible he had a big draw on the flop and hit it on the turn, or he has over cards. I think I might just fold this hand on the flop, even if we hit our 2 or Ace we still could be losing to a higher straight or two pair. I think either 3 bet here or fold pre-flop.

3bet or fold pre here, leaning very strongly towards folding. As played this is pretty much lighting money on fire. He doesn't have much air if any and people love to put you on busted flush draws.

by lighting money on fire do you refer to bluffing the river? it seems i made a mistake on each street. except maybe the river because i gave up and he showed 99

No you lit money on fire every street except river because you finally decided to shutdown. Your call pre is quite suspect as villain seems tight and not really making moves, making it hard to get max value out of your hand. On the flop you reraise with complete air on a low flop against someone who has a range when called that is crushing you here. This is when you should just give up against villain as he is likely to not fold especially you have been given a card that is terrible to double barrell here (not a scare card and hard to rep). I think if you had bet river villain most likely would have called because A) he has showed no indications he is wanting to give up and B) you really don't represent much on this board that you would value bet on river.

Bottom line, you don`t want to be calling tight players Oop with marginal hands, because even if you do hit, you don`t get paid.So you win a small pot when hitting a flush or a str8, and lose a big one when the ace hits and he has you dominated, due to revers implied odds.I would fold or 3b it pre if he has a high fold to 3b% which few if any players at 10NL do.Imo folding is the optimal play here.

As nitty as it sounds I think foldIng pre would be fine. Flatting I marginally ok.

Doesn't sound nitty at all against a nit.

OP you mentioned you called because, it was toward the bottom of your calling range and top of your bluffing range. That sounds to me like you have a pretty static range that you aren't adjusting based on villain's range.

Against a 14/5 (I know small sample, but it's the best we have), I probably don't have a bluffing range and my calling range is something like pocket pairs if I'm getting odds to set mine. It's awfully hard to outplay a 5% range.

Stat-based reads are meaningless given sample size, so 3bet preflop sometimes. Fold the flop the rest of the time. If you genuinely knew he was a nit, and you don't, you could fold preflop some of the time.