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Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1811175
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BTN: $5.18
SB: $9.81
BB: $7.18
UTG: $3.57
MP: $4.64
Hero (CO): $15.72

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.45, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.44, SB calls $0.99

Flop: ($2.93) 8 4 Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, SB raises to $3.50, Hero???



Villain is a 22/22 and has 3betted 1/3 out of the blinds (33%) after 23 hands. no post flop stats or reads yet.

what range would you give Villain for 3b/calling a 4bet oop and what hands would he x/r bearing in mind we have the Ad?

how would you size the 4bet pre?

how would you size your bets post flop? should i bet my stack all in in two or three streets?

JJ+QQ AKs pre. I assume he stacks off pre with KK AA. QQ looks like a real possibility. Never folding tho.

I like your bet sizing on flop and I think given your 4betting size you need to valuebet 3 streets as you would be massive overshoving on turn if you went for 2. Do you think he can call a 4bet with AQ. You have 20+ hands of zoom with him what dynamic do you have with him if any?

I like your bet sizing on flop and I think given your 4betting size you need to valuebet 3 streets as you would be massive overshoving on turn if you went for 2. Do you think he can call a 4bet with AQ. You have 20+ hands of zoom with him what dynamic do you have with him if any?

i have no dynamic with him. i have no idea what he can call 4bets with. but in general i would say hands that he 3bets for value that he does not feel are strong enough to stack off pre for 200bb. like the hands miscsquab listed. maybe we can add some combos of AQ and other suited broadways and maybe some suited connectors.
given that he may have a bluffing range and overplay some pairs and have some semi bluffs the flop is pretty close imo.

Yeah, I could see that I also belief he is capable of calling a 4bet with 1010 this deep. I feel as though he intented to reraise this flop irregardless of the board on this hand thinking you would fold out most of your hands. Despite this thought in these marginal spots what do you lean towards doing? I can personally see going with either side but is it standard too stack off with a overpair in almost a 200bb pot or is this seen as spew?

Yeah, I could see that I also belief he is capable of calling a 4bet with 1010 this deep. I feel as though he intented to reraise this flop irregardless of the board on this hand thinking you would fold out most of your hands. Despite this thought in these marginal spots what do you lean towards doing? I can personally see going with either side but is it standard too stack off with a overpair in almost a 200bb pot or is this seen as spew?

i don't think its spew but still might be a close fold. i do not really know what the best play is and i felt pretty uncomfortable on the flop when he raised. i mean QQ makes perfect sense but thats all i would give him that is ahead of me on the flop. i think if i didn't have the A of diamond i would not fold because he can potentially have more combos of semi bluffs i am ahead of. ( on the other hand i have some more outs with my back door flushdraw holding the Ad )

Yeah, I can see that. From what little zoom I have played (less than 5,000 hands) you seem like you would be probably good here.. but it still feels like your getting it in light. I thought you were playing much higher last time you posted.

Yeah, I can see that. From what little zoom I have played (less than 5,000 hands) you seem like you would be probably good here.. but it still feels like your getting it in light. I thought you were playing much higher last time you posted.

yeah i have been at NL50 but you can lose or win a lot of money very fast playing Zoom and i probably didn't have a big enough bankroll but i was just taking stabs anyways. now i play NL5 because i had a longer break of 2-3 months and i just want to get into the game again before playing higher limits.

Okay that makes sense good luck at the tables.

4bet pot. 100bb deep.. we can almost never fold here

4bet pot. 100bb deep.. we can almost never fold here

100bb i totally agree but its NL5 so we are 200bb deep which makes it pretty ugly imo.

All in, never folding here, 23 hands is really unreliable sample to give him that much credit, also what is his fold to 4b%?.But i would say you ARE running into the top of his range here, that you pretty much stack all exept pocket queens.Im inclined to think that this guy considering his 3b%, would also 3b big suited broadways, bc they don`t really have a clear idea which hands are good to 3b with and which to call, so a lot of them will 3b call 4bts with Kq,Qj,Q10s and stack off with putting you on AK.Also he could have a top pair + fd that he`s never folding.Some of these habitual 3b guys will never adjust, so i think doing anything but shoving all in here would be a massive leak.

yeah 200deep! but thats why we must 4bet bigger.. and never folding on the flop

I don't think I'm ever folding in this situation. It's very unlikely that villain has a set of 88s or 44s, good players don't flat call 4 bets with small pocket pairs. I think you having the Ace of diamonds is a good thing because that means he doesn't have the nut flush, also you have a back door nut flush draw. Villain could have AQ unsuited here, I'm not sure if he has pocket KK here because wouldn't he have shoved all in pre instead of just flat call a 4 bet? And we can't fold this hand just because we think he might have a set of QQs. I am shoving over the top in this situation. I think we probably have the best hand here a vast majority of the time.

good players don't flat call 4 bets with small pocket pairs.

What makes you think he`s a good player?