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BrentonMac

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Hey,

This is my first hand question so be nice to me Poke Tongue hehe. The Villain is quite lose 45+/30 after 40-50 hands. And he his range was usually quite large. Let us know if there was anything different I could have done...

Cheers,

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $51.80
CO: $49.25
BTN: $47.00
Hero (SB): $49.95
BB: $147.90

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with ADiamond AHeart
3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.00) 6Spade 3Spade 7Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $11, Hero raises to $34, BB raises to $103, Hero calls $15.45 all in

Posted over 5 years ago

Messiah

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OK I will go easy on you because this is your first post, but please explain your reasoning for not raising preflop.

As played, he has any two since we just limped preflop, so the hand is basically null from an analysis standpoint after preflop.

Posted over 5 years ago

dzejkej

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Ooops, this is what you get when you limp which is narrowing his range to, mmm, bottom 80%?

Unless he is kamikaze I see no way you are winning after he 3-bets you.

Posted over 5 years ago

joethepro

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once you decided to limp with AA, you are not allowed to play a big pot Smile

personally, if i get AA in the sb, i'll bet a ridiculous amount. the BB is always either gonna play or not. there is no middle ground. bet sizing Blind vs Blind, imo, is not that important to the villian in the BB.

i usually bet like 5BB in the sb. if they fold, i probably wouldn't have won much anyway. if they call, i'll play cautiously. if they raise, i'm really happy. some loose aggressive people (thinking you're stealing) would 3bet my 5bb raise with any pair, AK-A9, KQ, KJ and some suited connecters so it's a pretty sweet play.

Posted over 5 years ago

schaffem111

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We should very rarely be open limping any hand in the small blind, and certainly not AA. Especially against a loose villain who is going to call our raise most of the time. With AA, especially at low stakes, the idea is to get as much money in the pot preflop as possible.

That's the lesson to take away from the hand. As Messiah said, there's no reason to analyze postflop.

Posted over 5 years ago

dzejkej

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personally, if i get AA in the sb, i'll bet a ridiculous amount. the BB is always either gonna play or not. there is no middle ground. bet sizing Blind vs Blind, imo, is not that important to the villian in the BB.



Interesting strategy. What other hands are you raising that big from SB so you are not that easy to read?

Posted over 5 years ago

joethepro

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personally, if i get AA in the sb, i'll bet a ridiculous amount. the BB is always either gonna play or not. there is no middle ground. bet sizing Blind vs Blind, imo, is not that important to the villian in the BB.

Interesting strategy. What other hands are you raising that big from SB so you are not that easy to read?



the nice thing about this is you never need to risk raising that big in the sb with any other hand. people are inherently suspicious of blind vs blind raise and you feed that paranoa when you inflate the raise. it's nice if you have a LAG image to go with the raise too though.


i only do this with AA and KK (QQ and JJ if they are very aggro. whatever i'm willing to go broke with preflop). otherwise, i normally bet 3.5BB with the other good hands (AK-AT, any pair, KQ). the thing is, when the big blind sees me raising 3.5BB all the time and suddenly i do 5BB, he becomes very suspicious. the more agr he is the more likely he's going to get 3-bet. playing AA and KK for 3.5BB OOP with 100BB stacks is not worth the trouble to me. play big, or play not at all is what i like sb vs bb. you'll be surprised that hand that might have called your 3.5BB raise (for example A8) are now 3-betting you.

i'm at the point now where i need to decide if it's better to 4 bet or to call. i'm finding that if i 4 bet they fold their hands (usually trash 3-betting by them) and if i call, they give up after the flop or maybe no c-bet even. i think i might try whitelime's strategy of giving them enough rope to go over the top so i would do a very small 4-bet.

Posted over 5 years ago

schaffem111

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personally, if i get AA in the sb, i'll bet a ridiculous amount. the BB is always either gonna play or not. there is no middle ground. bet sizing Blind vs Blind, imo, is not that important to the villian in the BB.

Interesting strategy. What other hands are you raising that big from SB so you are not that easy to read?

the nice thing about this is you never need to risk raising that big in the sb with any other hand. people are inherently suspicious of blind vs blind raise and you feed that paranoa when you inflate the raise. it's nice if you have a LAG image to go with the raise too though.


i only do this with AA and KK (QQ and JJ if they are very aggro. whatever i'm willing to go broke with preflop). otherwise, i normally bet 3.5BB with the other good hands (AK-AT, any pair, KQ). the thing is, when the big blind sees me raising 3.5BB all the time and suddenly i do 5BB, he becomes very suspicious. the more agr he is the more likely he's going to get 3-bet. playing AA and KK for 3.5BB OOP with 100BB stacks is not worth the trouble to me. play big, or play not at all is what i like sb vs bb. you'll be surprised that hand that might have called your 3.5BB raise (for example A8) are now 3-betting you.

i'm at the point now where i need to decide if it's better to 4 bet or to call. i'm finding that if i 4 bet they fold their hands (usually trash 3-betting by them) and if i call, they give up after the flop or maybe no c-bet even. i think i might try whitelime's strategy of giving them enough rope to go over the top so i would do a very small 4-bet.



I think you can only do this at very low stakes against very bad players. Against thinking players if you tie preflop raise to hand strength they will catch on pretty quickly.

Posted over 5 years ago

joethepro

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i agree that once they see a single show down, they'll catch on, but the times this situation comes up are pretty small.

folded down to blind vs blind AND you get AA or KK AND it goes to showdown (so they can see the cards). when i multitable, i'll probably have this situation come up once every other day.

Posted over 5 years ago




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