Micro Stakes Online NL Poker Forums

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $50.48
Hero (BTN): $27.05
SB: $25.93
BB: $25.16
UTG: $23.20
MP: $40.22

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB requests TIME, SB raises to $2.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.95

Flop: ($5.65) 3 7 Q (2 players)
SB requests TIME, SB bets $3.40, Hero calls $3.40

Turn: ($12.45) 6 (2 players)
SB requests TIME, SB bets $19.83 all in, Hero ???

Question 1:
Any criticism at play till turn?
Question 2:
What does Vil have?
I really wonder, what the overshove means!
Question 3:
Fold or Call?

Vil:
18/15/1(Aq:32%) over 244 hands, 3b: 7%(6/87),
he has seen me ATS and 3b quiet often in previous sessions, and has probably SLAA-Stats on me.

i honestly think that he is betting air the only thing that beats you is a set no draws or anything on the table and if he had a set why would he shove like that to me it would be a snap call

FWIW I used to see a lot of goofballs at 25nl take this line with AA,KK also. Their logic is something like: He will call me with a queen and there is a flushdraw out there and I dont want to make a tough decision..shove. {breathe}

At these limits I think it is hard to see a bluff overshove here. People just dont run these lines when your hand looks quite specifically like AQ,KQ,QJ. The only semibluff you will see is AK suited hearts.

Is that just weak tight thinking???

FWIW I used to see a lot of goofballs at 25nl take this line with AA,KK also. Their logic is something like: He will call me with a queen and there is a flushdraw out there and I dont want to make a tough decision..shove. {breathe}

At these limits I think it is hard to see a bluff overshove here. People just dont run these lines when your hand looks quite specifically like AQ,KQ,QJ. The only semibluff you will see is AK suited hearts.

Is that just weak tight thinking???

I think your giving players at these limits alot of credit so many of them have the thinking that well i have Q so i have the nuts and dont think bout a kicker card or anything i have seen it many times at these limits where players will shove with air or second pair at best, the only thing that he will be beatin on is a set which i do not think he has by the way he played the hand

Thanks guys =)

I somehow can see both, a strong hand(KK, who doesn't want to get drawn out on) and air.

I have seen guys shoving air on spots like that, b/c they don't want to give up on the pot and the only way they can win, is by overshoving. (Desperationshove)

But i also have seen a guy ck/overshove(5xPot) on a 986s board w/ 88 b/c he doesn't want me to draw out on him.(I had 99 =P)

Hmmmm.... i see KK shoving here,... but shoving a set makes little to no sense. But Fish have their own logic... =(

I tend to a call... but I'm still not really sure =/

45s is also possible as pf resteal with flop cbet. the shove is an attempt to make it look like a bluff. KK fits better though.

@capitalista:
Don't think he is savvy enough to 3b w/ 45s ^^

Hmm... makes me even more doubtful about my action ^^
The sick part is, that as he 3b me i thought that he is doing it w/ a small/middle PP, but thats probably b/c i just started to 3b them in the blinds ^^ Still tend to a call ^^

Yeay, already 2 people, who dedicate their first post to my thread =) thx

Fold, low agg factor, getting too aggressive usually a hand here. No made hand you beat is doing something like this.