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25NL AQ - Cold 4betting in position


Yojimgari

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Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 594796
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CO: $26.86
BTN: $33.93
SB: $34.56
Hero (BB): $29.33
UTG: $47.81
MP: $21.29

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Q Heart A Spade
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $5.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($11.75) 8 Heart T Club 8 Club (2 players)
SB checks

Please review my hand. This is on a Rush table. 25nl Rush plays similar to 5nl-10nl non-Rush in certain ways.

I have seen CO before, don't know much about him, except for this note:
2-5-10 - 25NL - Bet Small OOP vMissedCBet w/nuts on wet Turn. <---This probably wasn't against me

I have this note on SB:
3-5-10 - 25NL - Call KK BBvSB(me w/65s) w/$10, Call 3x AI 963t66f. === Slow plays pre IP vs Me BvB <---t means it was two-chrome flop and f means the flush hit on the river

Please answer these questions:
1. Is my hand strong enough to call preflop?
2. He's 3betting from blinds against a CO open, and has slow played KK before preflop, so I decide to cold 4bet, although maybe his small 3bet means he has a strong hand. Should I 4bet, if so, what size?
3. What should I on the flop?

Thanks, Yojimgari

Posted almost 2 years ago

thisfool

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Hey.

This seems like a really complicated situation in which you're either going to be giving up on the flop, or barreling him with your stack. I haven't played enough 4bet pots to be able to navigate as well as you might, so please take my words with a grain of salt as I'm no expert on this situation.

Good question about the strength of your hand. Like I said, I'm not comfortable answering that question reliably. Cold calling allows you to enter the flop with position on him, but if CO 4bets after you, fold. 4betting is a good isolation play and puts you IP on the guy to play later on.

As played, you'll want to lay out your strategy immediately with this flop. IMO, cbetting the flop is a must if you're not ready to give up now. If you 4bet him and check this board, I feel it shows great weakness. He's likely to barrel you off on a lot of turns or at least take away your fold equity by committing another bet. Then again, he's probably calling you with a lot of PPs that would require multiple streets if you think you can get him to fold. There aren't a lot of great turns cards for you, in that case, so you should be prepared to fire again most of the time, unless you think you can take a free turn card and hope to pair up or something like that.

Something like $6 or $7 gives you an almost 2/3 pot-sized stack with which to play the turn and river. If you bet higher, it might look more convincing against his mid and weak pocket pairs now, but it lays him better odds to call another bet later, and it commits you.

I'm going to go study a few videos and articles about 4bet pots and see if I can't get a better grip on this situation. I hope my comments are not too far out of line.

Posted almost 2 years ago

tubasteve

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ccheiden

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I was going to ask, are we 4b as a bluff? or what?

Posted almost 2 years ago

thisfool

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Steve, do you think you could elaborate on when playing this hand would be more favorable? And what do you prefer as a flop decision here as played?

Posted almost 2 years ago

tubasteve

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Steve, do you think you could elaborate on when playing this hand would be more favorable? And what do you prefer as a flop decision here as played?



there's just no reason to get involved facing a raise and a reraise when you can just quickfold to the next hand rather than trying to chase some miniscule and likely non-existent edge by cold 4-betting anything but the nuts at 25NL

as played i c/f the flop b/c even being in this spot is spew imo

Posted almost 2 years ago

NoWayFolding

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If you dont have reads dont make spewy plays like 4betting AQ and not knowing what do on the flop.

Makes play when you have a solid play and solid reads. In this situation you had neither and against some players I call AQ, some others I 4bet and some others I fold. Given everyone at 25NL rush 3bets JJ/AK+ you really cant do anything with AQ here but fold.

Posted almost 2 years ago




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